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Happy Thursday lovies!! ❤️🌿 Come join me at #TheWateringH...

Happy Thursday lovies!! ❤️🌿 Come join me at #TheWateringHole for a chit chat 🫶

It’s an exciting day here at Chez DreamMachine 🥳 My cucumeris mites are due to arrive this afternoon 🙌 🙌

….and I got some #plantmail 😬😇 Including some #wishlist entries. So I’m going to post these and get back to screening and quarantining.

Pictures, we have:

-Begonia ‘Sophie-Cecile’
-Hoya clemensorium
-Hoya linearis
-(Hoya) GPS 7731 (leaves like a fine nap suede 🤤 )
-Alocasia nebula 'Imperialis'

What’s going on in your world’s today? I hope everyone has a lovely planty day 🫶🌿❤️


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Good morning,

Had a relatively relaxing/ relaxed day at work and just came back to hoya bliss. The serpens is happily continuing to open, so I've moved her to the living room. Fingers crossed the fragrance doesn't get too overwhelming (yesterday it was a bit too much, albeit in a smaller room. )
I'll add some repeat blooms, since, unbelievably the SAO111 and the soidaoensis (among others) are at it again, already.
Have fun with your mites 😀 I'm considering getting another batch of swirskiis for some acquaintances with a prolonged thrips issue (among other things).
@DreamMachine good morning! ☀️ Mite mail, plant mail, wishlist plants ✅, what could be better!!🙌
Love your Sophie-Cecile 💚 one of my all time favorite plants!!! And a linearis oooooohhh that’s exciting 🫠. I’d love to feel the fine nap suede Hoya 🫲 very interesting. Cute alocasia too!! Congratulations 🎉
@MusicalRedmint Susann, your Hoya flowers are beautiful, so lovely to look at 😍
@DreamMachine Regarding yesterday's questions (as far as I remember them, I was really out of it):

No, I never mentioned my birthday. Don't worry. As always I don't like to put too specific information out there. All the more thanks for your less birthday wishes.
I didn't take pictures, so I would have to recreate the mite district of sin. Which might feel a bit forced 😅 Let me see if I can find the energy a bit later in the evening, after a good cup of tea😀.
Keep me updated on the mite situation 🔍🕷
Thank you @MariansOasis 😊 my dog is angrily shouting for a walk now (rightfully so), so I can't type a lengthy answer rn. Maybe I'll check in later.
@MusicalRedmint wow, your place certainly looks like Hoya Heaven 😱😍🥳 AND omg omg, seeing your comment made a switch go off in my head to go check my Bella and we have our first bloom everybody!!!!!
@DreamMachine yay!!!!!😁 🎉 1st bloom!!! Soooo sweet! 🥹. Scent??
@MariansOasis thank you Marian!! I know I am very into goth begonias right now, and I love how dangerously sharp the Sophia looks! Do you have a sp. aff. burtoniae? The GPS7731 feels like that 🤗

AND I just got my FIRST HOYA BLOOM!! 🥳🥳🥳
Loves them all! That clemensorium is gorgeous! Where did you get it? Is your third Hoya the gps7731? Are those leaves fuzzy??
@MariansOasis no scent yet!! But I’ll be checking throughout the day of course. Just excited chaos as per usual over here today 😂😂
@Idplantthat yes! They are fuzzy like the sp aff burtoniae is fuzzy. Kind of like suede!

And I was very excited to learn that the linearis (2nd pic) is also fuzzy!!
@Idplantthat I got the Clem from Berggreen Thumb, a seller from Oregon (I believe Bend maybe)?

And check out this other one I got AH021 @MariansOasis @MusicalRedmint
@DreamMachine What?? 🤯. Shut the front door; those guys are also fuzzy! That one is wild I love it! 🥰
@DreamMachine 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Oh wow, so many exciting new hoyas. Congrats on your new petting plants. Just came back from my walk and the serpens smell is overwhelming and c leading me to reconsider my life choices 😬 but..... pretty. Are the mites there yet (I feel like a five-year-old on a road trip)
@MusicalRedmint 😂 I know right. “They’ll get here when they get here!” I’ve still got about 4 hours until the earliest time for delivery window.

In the meantime, I’ll show you ALL the hoyas I got. I meant to comment with the rest of the pictures, but it’s been an exciting (and distracting) day!
@MariansOasis @Idplantthat we also have:

H. ghost fairy (Hoya sp. MB 1034-505)
-H. lacunosa full moon (I bought two I guess?)
-H. quinquenervia
@DreamMachine ooh AH 021 looks very callistophylla-like!
All so pretty!! I’ve thought about the quinquenervia. I’ll be interested in seeing how you like it 😊
@DreamMachine ooooh. 😍 the quinquenervia has let me pause whenever I've stumbled across her as well. And looks so pretty already.
@MariansOasis @MusicalRedmint oooh neither of you have that one?? It’s been on my wishlist for a year…so pretty much as soon as I found hoyas I found that one…finally made the plunge! 😅 I’ll keep you both updated. I’m already loving the leaves, and they’re so BIG. I don’t have many big leafed hoyas!
..... yet.
@MusicalRedmint I like that attitude!!
@MusicalRedmint growth mindset 🙌
@DreamMachine you don't have many big leafed hoyas *yet*. 😅 I remember a time when I also said that same sentence. Then the first ones almost happened by accident and now the bigger leaves are getting more common of a sight. 😬 if only my apartment would grow in size as well.
@DreamMachine 😂 of that's what you want to call that....
Btw: Oh boy, the serpens stinks up the room. It's quite literally keeping me awake.
@MusicalRedmint ahaha 🫣🫠 I forgot if I asked you what scent are the blooms?
@MusicalRedmint and I’m questioning my reasoning now, that I don’t have many big leafed hoyas yet, because the baby leaves of my biggest leafed hoyas currently are my absolutely favorite.
@DreamMachine 🤪 I got the hanhiae on an impulse, going on by the looks of the rooted cutting when I stopped by a private collector. I knew it would be a bigger leafed one than most of my others but thought I could handle one of those.... and then they were put in 100% natural northern German windowsill "light" and the next leaves suddenly were 3 times as big (in surface area). Same, but not quite as bad, happened to the SAO111 and the Viola. I hate the inconsistencies in the formerly uniform leaf size, but man, those pristine glossy firm huge leaves are gorgeous.

The scent is hard to describe. If you get only a whiff of it is almost a bit like the lacunosa in the undertones. But I never get only a whiff. To this point it's apparently my most strongly smelling hoya. By far. And to my nose at least there are some very unpleasant nuances that push to the front. No longer floral but very off-putting. Add to that that my I nose usually doesn't easily get used to smell... I wasnt kidding. It's almost 3 am here and I am wide awake. I don't want to get up again to move it, also, more generally, i dont want to move it around too much. Or miss the blooms in a less visible spot. But it seems I will have to. This clearly doesn't work for me. 😅🤢
(Don't let that discourage you though. Smells are very personal after all. And I have often noticed before that my description of smell doesn't often match those of many other people. )
Rotting meat. I think if I had to put words to it, to me it has just the slightest note of the smell of rotting meat to it. Just a hint, but because the smell is so pervasive and strong... that hint of that smell as well is always in my nose. And gets worse the longer i have to smell it😬
Btw: I had just gathered my strength to get up and fix this situation... only to have Mr Sleepy use exactly that moment to lay down next to me to cuddle. Impeccable timing as always on his part. So I guess I will endure some more. And strength. (This situation and my whining might be the perfect definition of "champaign problems" 😅)

Mites there yet?
@DreamMachine @MusicalRedmint yes exactly the whole big leaf thing!! I’m hoping yours wants to play and gives you joy!
@MusicalRedmint @DreamMachine my biggest leaf Hoya so far is fungii and so far I Love it 🥰. It’s putting out a lot of leaves 🍃. Also my callistophylla has some pretty large leaves too. 😊
@MusicalRedmint smells are personal! I won’t let that deter me, if only just to see if that’s what it smells like to me as well.

And no 😭😩 I’m just staring out the window like my monstera. Cmon UPS guy!! Mama needs her mites!

My ups app has the truck tantilizingly close, but every time I check it’s changed positions around the radius of which my house is the center 😆
@MariansOasis @MusicalRedmint me too! I love the callistophylla. And that reminds me, because I wanted to ask others who had this variety.

How stiff are your leaves? Mine are not. They’re thin, and can easily be “taco’d.” He did seem to be pretty dehydrated when I got him, not wrinkly at all, but after 4 rounds of normal watering times, the leaf texture has not changed.

In Greg’s database the common name is “stiff leaf hoya,” which I know doesn’t mean much on an AI plant database, but it did give me pause.

I read a scant handful of posts on the interwebs about their callistophylla’s also not being very firm either, so maybe it’s just different plants from different growers? 🤔 I did get mine from Proven winners.
@MariansOasis @MusicalRedmint Yes! They start so impossibly smowl 🤏 and then get massive! I love it!

My callistophylla, finlaysonii, and latifolia before this one were my biggest leaves 🥰
@MariansOasis @MusicalRedmint this is 💯 a picture of me right now 😅
😂
@MusicalRedmint @MariansOasis Susann I hope you’re sleeping now, but in case you’re not or when you wake up:

FINALLY!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳

I was getting skeered, it’s almost 8pm 😮‍💨😮‍💨
@DreamMachine yay!!!!!!!!👍🙌
@DreamMachine the leaves on mine are very stiff. Could not taco them if I wanted to. Interesting that yours is not. Maybe you’re on to it being a different growers thing 🤷‍♀️.
@DreamMachine Hoya Linearis sistas!!! 🙌👯‍♀️🌱🌱
@DreamMachine And look at those sweet Bella blooms! 🥹
@MusicalRedmint Amazing blooms Susanna! I’m continuing my blooming rituals…someday…!
@DreamMachine I love the picture of you waiting for your mites. Had to col (cackle out loud) when I saw it.
Hope the mites survived transit well enough? (I was , indeed , sleeping at that point. Had a very restful night from 5 am to 10 am (thanks, Mr. Sleepy) and have banished the serpens to the kitchen again 😅)
No idea on the callistophylla. I dint have any in that broader family. Only one that comes close is my mother's Nui (might be a relative, need to look it up) and that one has consistently firm leaves. I'm just not a fan of the blooms, so I never even looked into them. @MariansOasis I have a fungii hybrid. Beautiful leaves, big,, but not "huge" huge. How big is your fungii?
@debbiedo just read your comment and immediately had a vision of you dancing around the small pot with your tiny thomsonii in the middle of a room, chanting away. I'm truly blessed that I never even need drugs for experiences like this 🤦‍♀️ or am I.
Dance on. I'm sure it will work. I'll send you some tunes. 🎵🎶
@MusicalRedmint 😂😂 Well, I sure hope they survived transit! My supplier packed them extremely well, I was very impressed at the amount of insulation, but the cold pack that was in the box was warm. It didn’t get over 28°C during shipping, and it was only 24 hours, but I’m still a little nervous 😬 The whole time I was waiting for them I was thinking, “this is exactly why I will go pick them up next time!!”

I’m home from work now, and soon I will be getting out my microscope!! And starting several mite breeding containers 🤞 🤞 😁😁

Also: Bella blooms! All open on one pedunkadunk 🥳 Very faint scent right now, almost reminds me of dove brand soap bars 😂
@DreamMachine
🤪exactly my own reasoning as well. It's not that I have difficulty relinquishing control. It's just a good idea to go fetch them myself 🤪
I'm sure they are fine, though. Not sure about the max temps for the cucumeris, but usually they explode with more warmth and don't mind it, if I remember correctly. The swirskii only start having fun at 26° C , so I'm sure they are just peachy.
(Just noticed when writing down the 26° that "huh? Why can I compare it so easily to the temp you gave me? Have I finally started to instinctively convert from F to C in my mind?" Then went back to see the rare Celsius in your text. I appreciate it 😅 usually I'm the one converting as best I can.)
Oh: btw, a word of caution from my own world of chaos: I noticed yesterday I must have overfed the bran mites. I think it happened because initially for some reason there were way to few swirskii in relation to the bran mites, so the population was too big already. The additional pollen and yeast did exacerbate the imbalance. And now I have feeder mites escaping the pots. And since they are bran mites that do like our food as well, I'm in danger of introducing them accidentally to places I really don't want them, I.e. the kitchen. (E.g. by them crossing over to some pots that I then put down in the kitchen, from whence they could spread out, feed on some crumbs and, what case, mutiply I'm my cupboards. 😬 not what I want of that project, I assure you). Soooo: just be careful. I myself have cut down on yeast and pollen until the swirskii population has visibly caught up with them.
And beautiful bella blooms. Congrats 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
@MusicalRedmint ohhhh my goodness, and thank you SO much for your perfect timing for that warning. That is definitely something I would like to avoid 😂😮‍💨 🙌 I have not set them all up yet, but I will definitely…not add any yeast/pollen yet? Or add just a teeny amount? Maybe just the bran flakes are enough to get them started while the cucumeris catch up? I would probably err on the side of overdoing it had I not known. “These poor little mites have been stuck in a bag, I’ll bet they’re starving!”

You’re most welcome 👉👉 re C° 😁 I was about to, you know, *not* do that, and then I had a moment of brilliant cognition 😅 Err, actually scratch that, I totally wrote that in F and I think you really *have* started to instantly convert from F to C in your mind! 👏 👏 👏 bravo!
@DreamMachine to be honest, I'm used to it by now. The Gregger user base is obviously overwhelmingly comprised of people from the US, so I usually try to talk inches, Fahrenheit, and other freedom units anyway. I don't mind in this rare case where it's so particularly clear that us metric people are the odd ones out 🤷‍♀️ otherwise I would feel that if create a tiny semantic speedbump in my texts for many of the Greggers every 3rd text I write.
Re mites:
I'm not sure of the right approach. For one, I don't think there will be any danger if you keep them apart from anything remotely edible and don't transfer things from a to b. For another, I think it's highly dependent on the amount of cucumeris mites. From what I've seen, the bran mites as well love the pollen and devour it. So I'd argue that you don't need the yeast in any case. Maybe don't overdo the pollen until you see a healthy amount of cucumeris mites running around as well? Or until the bran mute population seems to decline? I mean, technically, the bran mites are more than enough to feed the N.C.s technically. I still try to supply pollen because I've stumbled over a study that found swirskii populations to have a higher growth rate and swirskii mites to be healthier when additionally to their prey the have a supplementary source of pollen. A possible counter argument against that would be that the wrong pollen (of which I'm sure my mix contains some) might be harmful. So I guess it's a toss-up. I'm muddling along myself.

One thing is certain though: a) I now know where the bran mite outbreak in my kitchen originated 1 1/2 years ago (i.e. my cucumeris satches on my kitchen maranta on the counter) and b) sometimes I can be terribly, terribly slow 😂😂😂
I kid you not, back then I had not read up on how the cucumeris satches were filled and didn't connect the dots. I just at some point noticed some mystery mites everywhere in my kitchen. Flour, dog food, tea, coffee, they were everywhere. I had to clean the entire kitchen to to bottom, throw away unbelievable amounts of food, was absolutely stumped what had happened, and why stuff like that always happens to me. It's a mystery truly. And the funniest part? I realized I would stand never stand any chance whatsoever to ever clean every nook and cranny they had invaded thoroughly enough to get rid of them. Internet guides were no help. So I came up with a solution myself with that big brain of mine. Can you guess?
*Drumroll for dramatic effect*
I got some more satchets with cucumeris mites.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I placed plant cuttings with new satchets in every cupboard in the hopes the predator mites would use the leaves to breed and hoped that they also liked to eat bran mites not only broad mites (am I not smart????🧠🤯).
It's absolutely mind-boggling to me i only just realized what had happened a few days back and also how much luck I had back then. Just imagine if the cucumeris had failed to contain all of those new and old bran mites simultaneously 😬😬😬

I swear sometimes I don't know how I have made it this far.
@MusicalRedmint 🤣🤣🤣 Now I’M col! 😂😂😭 I don’t know why, really, because I have never done anything like that. Nope.

Never…

…at least, for… some time. 🤦‍♀️😂 When my husband is feeling particularly sassy, he likes to call certain members of my family, and only in a playful teasing manner, and of course, never about myself, mind you, “the dumbest smart people I know.” 😂 I have no idea why!
@DreamMachine 😅 that's a nice way to put it. Though I'm not sure on my case, the second half of the attributes apply 😅 the longer I live in this earth, the more evidence points towards the lack of brain cells. Maybe I'm systematically killing them with my creative sleep schedule? Anywaaaaay. I just warned my sister about a possible bran mite issue with the mites I gifted her last week (what a sentence. That alone should qualify me for a guild ticket to the looney bin). Now I'm "at work" (my acquaintance's house with the huge thrips infestation) and am checking all their plants in my downtime for various different creepy crawlers for future purposes.
Could come in handy, since yesterday I might have carried stupidly introduced thrips into my own home as well in a stroke of genius. 🤦‍♀️🤞
Have a great day, I'm off to write my petition to introduce "col" into the oed after we both took it for a test drive.
Oh, and bonus pics: the house has a wonderful garden (hence the ever present thrips), so I thought I could share.
@MusicalRedmint 😂😂 well hey! I also may have stupidly introduced thrips into my own home. Last weekend my boss seemed to be in a mood (not usual) so I picked her a bouquet of herbs and flowers on my way in. I was wrapping up the sprigs of lavender, rosemary, lemon balm, calendula, rose campion in my mother’s car when suddenly I was blowing aphids out the window and squishing thrips. I managed to accidentally squish an unamed bug, very easily, onto my skirt 🤦‍♀️💃🏻 Hopefully any possible living stowaways fell off during a busy shift and did not make it all the way back home with me that afternoon.

But I also realized that something I’ve complained about in the past (my big southern windows, where the majority of my plants are , do not open) has actually protected me from the thrips in the garden directly on outside of said windows. Hey hey 🙌

Hopefully you as well had no stowaways. If I do, I might have to get pirate bugs for the sheer joy of seeing them unaliving thrips for fun and carrying around the bodies as trophies.

Beautiful picture! 🤩 Hope you’ve had a nice day, and don’t get thrips 🤞 🤞
@DreamMachine if only they would have been unnoticed stowaways. Once again, way more stupid than that. We had quite the... oh... missing English words here for once. Do you have a word for the feeling of the air when a thunderstorm is building? A feeling of high pressure (again.. words, urgh) weighing you down, maybe I tinge darker light and higher humidity in some cases as well etc. Well, anyway, that is the kind of air that seems to rile up some kinds of pests as well. Among others one that we call "Gewittertierchen" ("small thundercloud animals") for that very reason. In that kind of weather they often stick to your bare arms and clothing etc, which they normally wouldn't. Since I had several appointments during the day, i.e., rode around on my bike in the afternoon heat a lot, I had to swat them away constantly. Cursing all the "Gewittertierchen" constantly. Soooo.... very aware of them.
Fast forward 2 hours, I'm back home, check on all my plants, take out the dog, then finally shower, when it finally clicks... ergh... what did I just do? Because the botanical name for Gewittertierchen, you've guessed it, is Thysanoptera, i.e. thrips. So I know that? Of course. We usually call them "Thripse", when they destroy our plants as well. But somehow, because of the circumstances (and an apparently fast rotting brain ) my mind went straight to the more folksey name and then never managed to make the connection to them being a vicious pest. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I just went home. No checking clothes, skin, anything, even though I had noticed them being around on me as well am day.
Soooo... when you hear a scream in the next few days that seems to come from veeeery far away, don't worry, it's probably me and I 100% deserve whatever happens.
@DreamMachine
Btw, same same re. Windows. My living room window directly faces a quiet street. No plants at all in front of them. My kitchen window e.g. is at constant defcon2 at least, last year aphids and bush snails made it through, to name a few, but the rooms with the most plants can be ventilated relatively without any worries.
@MusicalRedmint ohh…noooo!! 😆😆 If you will give me just a quick moment to be fascinated, however, I had no idea! 🤯 We don’t get many thunderstorms here, maybe once a year. So infrequently, that I still get very excited at a crack of thunder and rush to the window to look for lightening, just like I’ve done since I was little 🤏

The word I would think is closest to what you describe would be, “muggy.” Thick feeling humid air, but doesn’t really refer to any lighting conditions. 🤔 Or we could use the delightful colloquial phrase “storm’s a’ brewin“ 😜


Well…

Shit.

Y’all got any of them pirate bugs? 🤪