My oldest hoya that I already killed once and managed to ...
My oldest hoya that I already killed once and managed to bring back. I believe it was bugs then too. Just not sure which bugs. Any ideas? @SuperbRaspfern @sillyplantgirl @Idplantthat @debbiedo @DreamMachine #happyplants #plantsmakepeoplehappy #hoyahangout #hoyaheads #hoyas #plantcorner #plantlove #plantlovers
She has #newgrowth as you can see from the picture.
She has #newgrowth as you can see from the picture.
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@planthoe40 I put these different shaped sticky gnat catchers (Amazon) in most all my in door plants, they work
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@planthoe40 Yes just doing my morning watering outdoors before the 100+ hits. I promise to get back to you this afternoon sorry for the delay. 🩷
When I look at the photos all of the leaves seem to be universal size. Have you been getting any misshapen or short leaves at all?
The reason I ask is that flat mites and edema look pretty much the same in Hoyas.
But edema will not affect the shape of the leaf at all. Flat mite are microscopic and you would never know they are there. But the damage is the same.
Because of that I need you to examine all the leaves.
The reason I ask is that flat mites and edema look pretty much the same in Hoyas.
But edema will not affect the shape of the leaf at all. Flat mite are microscopic and you would never know they are there. But the damage is the same.
Because of that I need you to examine all the leaves.
My other question is, do you still have her 3 feet away from the east window?
The reason I ask this is that won't be enough light for her. Without enough light she will grow extremely slowly, they won't usually flower because they don't have enough energy. Mine are happiest in a south facing window (right in it) with a sheer curtain behind them.
The sun doesn't actually give it energy but, captured sunlight turns carbon dioxide from the air and water from the soil into sugar, called glucose. That glucose gives your plant energy.
This is important with a Hoya because they get oedema so incredibly easy. Even if you only occasionally water that water is used so slowly that water will be absorbed and sit in those cells unused. That will cause those little pinholes on the bottom of the leaf. The cells burst open and cause them (so will flatmates though).
When it was doing well did you repot or move it to cause shock at all. I treat mine just like a succulent after repotting or moving because they don't drink.
Sorry for all of the questions. I just want to be sure to guide you in the right direction. 🩷
The reason I ask this is that won't be enough light for her. Without enough light she will grow extremely slowly, they won't usually flower because they don't have enough energy. Mine are happiest in a south facing window (right in it) with a sheer curtain behind them.
The sun doesn't actually give it energy but, captured sunlight turns carbon dioxide from the air and water from the soil into sugar, called glucose. That glucose gives your plant energy.
This is important with a Hoya because they get oedema so incredibly easy. Even if you only occasionally water that water is used so slowly that water will be absorbed and sit in those cells unused. That will cause those little pinholes on the bottom of the leaf. The cells burst open and cause them (so will flatmates though).
When it was doing well did you repot or move it to cause shock at all. I treat mine just like a succulent after repotting or moving because they don't drink.
Sorry for all of the questions. I just want to be sure to guide you in the right direction. 🩷
@SuperbRaspfern from what I can see it is just that one leaf. She had some older leaves that were starting to turn so I took those off.
I think I've had her about 2 years. She was a big full plant from Lowe's. She got bugs I think. I cut her up and put her in moss. She spent a year in moss. Took her sweet time. I actually had 2 different props of her and I got tired of waiting on one and gave it away. I took what I had and planted her. When I got her I put her in my window. It's the only window I have in my apartment but it has always had a grow light in it. I actually have no idea if it is a east facing window. I took a guess. I suck at that stuff. 🤷♀️
I think I've had her about 2 years. She was a big full plant from Lowe's. She got bugs I think. I cut her up and put her in moss. She spent a year in moss. Took her sweet time. I actually had 2 different props of her and I got tired of waiting on one and gave it away. I took what I had and planted her. When I got her I put her in my window. It's the only window I have in my apartment but it has always had a grow light in it. I actually have no idea if it is a east facing window. I took a guess. I suck at that stuff. 🤷♀️
@SuperbRaspfern since I repotted her she has been hanging on that hook right under the grow light. I did repot her a little while ago bc she had outgrown the 3in pot I had her in. I haven't had any misshapen leaves with her. One side of her is all green leaves. The other side is verigation. I sprayed her with alcohol last night and stuck her in the bathroom. Then this morning I stuck her downstairs with my other plants so she could at least get some light. We don't keep the light in the bathroom on all day. It's weird and makes a buzzing sound.
@SuperbRaspfern I always check to make sure before I water. I use a wooden bamboo stick and follow that with the taco leaf bend.
Hoyas do lose their variegation if they don't get enough light. I know that's the cause. I'm glad you moved her with the others. Beautiful collection by the way they all look very healthy and happy.
All those questions helped us eliminate flat mites and that is great news they are incredibly hard to treat. Worse than spider mites and thrips. That's why I wanted to ask so many questions.
If it was flat mites there would absolutely be growth coming in that is distorted. And her leaves are not, you just confirmed it.
I'm not seeing pests. The reason why I knew it was either flat mites or oedema is your photo I circled.
I'll explain. See all my red lines and how the for nice neat lines.
Most common pests do NOT do that. They wouldn't be in a line but a disorganized pattern.
Except for flat mites they do feed in a line. But fortunately you plant isn't showing any signs of them. No corking on the stems or petitoles and no deformed leaves. That great!
That only leaves 1 possibility and that is overwatering. It could have only happened one time. It doesn't have to be repetitive to happen. Especially with Hoyas. It's happened to mine on occasion as well.
I know it wasn't repetitive and I believe you that you are checking the soil. There are a couple of other instances that can cause it as well.
Sorry if I sound like a fruitcake 😜🤪
All those questions helped us eliminate flat mites and that is great news they are incredibly hard to treat. Worse than spider mites and thrips. That's why I wanted to ask so many questions.
If it was flat mites there would absolutely be growth coming in that is distorted. And her leaves are not, you just confirmed it.
I'm not seeing pests. The reason why I knew it was either flat mites or oedema is your photo I circled.
I'll explain. See all my red lines and how the for nice neat lines.
Most common pests do NOT do that. They wouldn't be in a line but a disorganized pattern.
Except for flat mites they do feed in a line. But fortunately you plant isn't showing any signs of them. No corking on the stems or petitoles and no deformed leaves. That great!
That only leaves 1 possibility and that is overwatering. It could have only happened one time. It doesn't have to be repetitive to happen. Especially with Hoyas. It's happened to mine on occasion as well.
I know it wasn't repetitive and I believe you that you are checking the soil. There are a couple of other instances that can cause it as well.
Sorry if I sound like a fruitcake 😜🤪
So, if she had shock it has passed. It's possible since the newer leaves look great that she got watered well after her repot and the damage happened. Sometimes the scarring takes time to heal and leave the brown corking.
The other possibility that can cause oedema is when they dry out too much. A Hoyas internal cells shrink. So when they do get to drink those cells rupture causing those pinholes.
Even too high of humidity can cause it as well. But I don't suspect that with a Hoya.
The other possibility that can cause oedema is when they dry out too much. A Hoyas internal cells shrink. So when they do get to drink those cells rupture causing those pinholes.
Even too high of humidity can cause it as well. But I don't suspect that with a Hoya.
I wouldn't treat her she looks great except that one leaf. She is showing signs of stress though with the curled upward leaves. That could be her response from the move from the bathroom to your living room though. Temperature changes, light changes all of that can cause a little stress and she will kinda curl those leaves up.
@SuperbRaspfern I so appreciate how evidence-based and experience- based your answers are! Have you ever thought about doing paid plant coaching as a side-hustle?
@MamaLinne Thank you Deb, I appreciate that thought. I have thought about it. For me though it brings more joy and happiness to me to just share and educate. I want nothing in return. It's more rewarding for me that way. It's my little gift back and my little way to share some kindness. In a world that is at times harsh and cruel. I've always felt it's better to give freely.
I've taught my adult children the same and I'm proud to say my children have followed my lead. And that is my biggest accomplishment in life! 🩷
I've taught my adult children the same and I'm proud to say my children have followed my lead. And that is my biggest accomplishment in life! 🩷
@SuperbRaspfern I love that so much, and totally agree! It does something for the soul to pass knowledge and wisdom on, and we’re missing soul-giving experiences in this world. Not everything has to be monetized. Well, thank you again! I learn so much and screen shot so many of your answers!
@MamaLinne Good, I'm glad the info come in handy for you. As always feel free to share and pass on that info to others. I don't even need the credit.
I'm off to care for my ever growing number of animals. Hopefully soon 2 alpacas will be joining our clan! 🩷
I'm off to care for my ever growing number of animals. Hopefully soon 2 alpacas will be joining our clan! 🩷
@SuperbRaspfern woohoo! I was just trying to talk my husband into a llama last night. His face -> 😐
😂 I'm in a unique position where I have remained good friends with the previous landowner. She and her children are welcome to visit anytime. The children really miss it out here. The Mom wanted to move because it's a long drive to town. Which I totally understand. My husband and I are in a different place in life. I only go to town once a week.
But long story short. They have 2 alpacas they want to rehome and they have been offered to us.
But long story short. They have 2 alpacas they want to rehome and they have been offered to us.
@SuperbRaspfern I was going to suggest maybe working at high school that has a horticulture department but it sounds like you have your hands full already. I do appreciate the help and knowledge. I'm not good with words or explanation. This coming from someone who wants to be a writer.
@SuperbRaspfern @MamaLinne I love this, the children of the previous owners of my parents’ home occasionally come visit them too 🥰 It a really old house with a lot of history. (I feel weird still, in my current “new” house built in the 1940’s 😅)
Congratulations on hopefully soon to be 🦙 🦙🥳
Congratulations on hopefully soon to be 🦙 🦙🥳
@planthoe40 Yes, I'm quite busy on our little farm. But, helping everyone here has been extremely rewarding and quite enjoyable. It also allows me to have no schedule and drop in when I can. That way I don't feel like I'm letting anyone down. It fits well into my life.
That's nice Nadia, I'm glad I'm not the only one who keeps those ties to old memories open for others. It's the small gestures that mean the most. 🩷
That's a lot of history packed into your old house. My parents when they were living in PA lived in my Granfathers old house that he built. Our family is all sorta packed in one town and everyone still works at the sawmill he built and ran.
My Great Uncle that lived with us when I was a small child, hung himself (sorry for those details) committed suicide from a bridge nearby. After his passing he would still be seen strolling past windows of that house.
My daughter visited for a summer and had severe depression. He would appear to her and smile when she was crying. She found comfort in him.
She told me about it years later and described his clothes and what he looked like. I pulled out a photos of him and it was him in the exact clothes and ballcap she described. He would only appear during her saddest moments. I think he felt her pain and wanted to comfort her.
My Mom would just catch glimpses every so often and thought she was losing her mind. Until I explained my daughter's experience. Then that small glimpse also brought her comfort.
Back East has such an old history...
Sorry if I sound like a fruitcake. 😜🤪 I have a tendency to over share at times...
That's nice Nadia, I'm glad I'm not the only one who keeps those ties to old memories open for others. It's the small gestures that mean the most. 🩷
That's a lot of history packed into your old house. My parents when they were living in PA lived in my Granfathers old house that he built. Our family is all sorta packed in one town and everyone still works at the sawmill he built and ran.
My Great Uncle that lived with us when I was a small child, hung himself (sorry for those details) committed suicide from a bridge nearby. After his passing he would still be seen strolling past windows of that house.
My daughter visited for a summer and had severe depression. He would appear to her and smile when she was crying. She found comfort in him.
She told me about it years later and described his clothes and what he looked like. I pulled out a photos of him and it was him in the exact clothes and ballcap she described. He would only appear during her saddest moments. I think he felt her pain and wanted to comfort her.
My Mom would just catch glimpses every so often and thought she was losing her mind. Until I explained my daughter's experience. Then that small glimpse also brought her comfort.
Back East has such an old history...
Sorry if I sound like a fruitcake. 😜🤪 I have a tendency to over share at times...
@SuperbRaspfern wow, this is so moving 😲 gives me the shivers! (in a good way)
And I’m laughing, because I also have that over sharing tendency. Just goes to show, you have to find the others that do the same and just tell lots of stories! 😜😅
And I’m laughing, because I also have that over sharing tendency. Just goes to show, you have to find the others that do the same and just tell lots of stories! 😜😅