Mother of Millions Rescue
I’m looking for *any*and *all* tips on this tiny Mother of Millions rescue. She was completely rootbound in a 1 inch pot. I re-potted her into a 2 inch pot with succulent soil amended with perlite. I bottom watered her with rain water and an extra diluted fertilizer. What’s the best light for her? #HappyPlants #PlantsMakePeopleHappy #Kalanchoe #SucculentSquad
1ft to light, direct
2” pot with drainage
Last watered 2 years ago
25
For mother of millions and mother of thousands I feel like they are both just like other succulents. They THRIVE on neglect. I have seen mother of thousands grow in the carpet when one of the little guys drop off. They can grow ANYWHERE!
I would say just water every couple of weeks and keep it either in morning sun (nothing afternoon) or just bright indirect light. It should be thriving come spring / summer
I would say just water every couple of weeks and keep it either in morning sun (nothing afternoon) or just bright indirect light. It should be thriving come spring / summer
@GreenThumbSC Thank you! I laughed a little when I read the part about them growing in the carpet as this has happened to me with other succulents! 😂 Good to know! Thanks again!
@SunnyPlants oh wow! Have never seen one! How cool! They remind of some kind of crustacean or spider. I have a ton of kalanchoe but I’m sorry, know nothing about this species
@PoniesAndPlants They really are strange looking! I think @TexanExpat has one. I wonder if he has any tips. 🤔
Disclaimer: I mean no offense if this isn’t slightly faded like it appears on my phone screen.
What is your time in front of natural or grow light?
I ask because I believe these types usually can handle a smaller amount like 6 hours, but are best if you train them with a little more light at a time until they appear calm and vibrant and then you can leave them on the cycle of the last time of exposure. If you have a grow light, try starting with 6 hours until the plant calms, then maybe 8 hours, and 10, maybe one week at a time. It sounds a bit tedious, but it may be what this needs if it’s showing fade.
Please let me know if this ends up working out. 🙏
What is your time in front of natural or grow light?
I ask because I believe these types usually can handle a smaller amount like 6 hours, but are best if you train them with a little more light at a time until they appear calm and vibrant and then you can leave them on the cycle of the last time of exposure. If you have a grow light, try starting with 6 hours until the plant calms, then maybe 8 hours, and 10, maybe one week at a time. It sounds a bit tedious, but it may be what this needs if it’s showing fade.
Please let me know if this ends up working out. 🙏
@GreenThumbSC No offense taken at all! 😊
I currently have it on a shelf that gets indirect light a good portion of the day. I currently have no space under my grow lights. I overwintered too many plants! Lol!
So, depending on the weather here, hopefully I can get her under a grow light soon! When you mention her being faded, do you mean this isn’t the color she is supposed to be? I have seen pics of some that seem more colorful, but wasn’t sure if this one is a different variety or if her colors haven’t come out yest because she is so small.
I currently have it on a shelf that gets indirect light a good portion of the day. I currently have no space under my grow lights. I overwintered too many plants! Lol!
So, depending on the weather here, hopefully I can get her under a grow light soon! When you mention her being faded, do you mean this isn’t the color she is supposed to be? I have seen pics of some that seem more colorful, but wasn’t sure if this one is a different variety or if her colors haven’t come out yest because she is so small.
@GreenThumbSC Oops!! Yes, you are right! @GreenWhisperer Your handles both start with Green, and I didn’t notice! Thanks!
@SunnyPlants Yeah, I can’t tell by photo but I think if this plant is very happy the greens would be a little darker/bolder inside by newer growth.
That’s why I wasn’t certain if it was just the lighting or not.
I’ve attached an image from google, you see what I was referring too.
Please keep us updated on this. Just pay attention to the colors, it has enough to its body to fight through. You can do it! 🙏
That’s why I wasn’t certain if it was just the lighting or not.
I’ve attached an image from google, you see what I was referring too.
Please keep us updated on this. Just pay attention to the colors, it has enough to its body to fight through. You can do it! 🙏
@GreenWhisperer Thanks for the pics! I see what you mean! Yeah, well I will do my best! She is a rescue, so it may take time! Thanks for your suggestions! I’ll hopefully be able to give a positive update! 🌵🪴💚
@GreenWhisperer @GreenThumbSC
Here’s a tiny update: She’s got a bit of color! 😊
I did find a space under a grow light, but she got this color just from the indirect light she was getting on the shelf. To move or not to move that is the question? 🤔
Here’s a tiny update: She’s got a bit of color! 😊
I did find a space under a grow light, but she got this color just from the indirect light she was getting on the shelf. To move or not to move that is the question? 🤔
@PoniesAndPlants thank you for the shout out. @SunnyPlants I have posted about these plants many times before as I am very fond of these plants. These plants have been reclassified so many times that they go by many names, but I think what you have is actually a Mother of Millions plant.
I appreciate them in the same way I appreciate a Great White Shark. Its awe-inspiring status arises from its remarkable evolutionary adaptations, all finely tuned for its role as an apex predator that evokes both fear and admiration
When I look at a Mother of Thousands , I see the botanical counterpart to the Great White. The plant comes from Madagascar, which broke off from the other continent(s) over 80 million years ago where its Floria and fauna evolved in isolation. The combination of highly sophisticated evolutionary adaptions suggest that survival in Madagascar must have particularly cutthroat. While many plants can produce so prolifically, I am unaware of any plant that produces such viable offspring in such numbers—in such a short amount of time. (keyword : viable) Within a growing cycle —-it makes thousands upon thousands of viable offspring as if it’s preparing for Armageddon. . As Grayson noted, they will grow anywhere, suggesting an adaptation resulting from particularly extreme conditions.
However, it would appear that merely proliferating armies of viable offspring was not enough to survive as the plant has an adaptation, wherein it releases toxins in the soil so nothing else can grow.
In sum, this plant is not merely an invader, it evolved for conquest. It will grow wherever it lands, it will quickly form colonies, and it will poison the soil and kill the flora in its path to build an empire.
Not the kind of neighbor you’d hope for. Lol. But I am in awe of the plant because it’s the closest thing to an apex predator, botanically speaking.
If you are a fan of musicals, perhaps you may recognize the Mother of Thousands plant as Audrey 2 from Little Shop of Horrors. Lol
While the real plant is not man-eating, like Audrey 2, they do grow….really fast, proven, you give them what they want.
Because they have survived from such extreme conditions, they are highly adaptable. You can keep them in, bright, indirect light, indoors if you want. But that will not give them enough light for explosive growth.
I live in South Texas, which becomes a hellscape of glaring infrared light that scorches these plants when they are in full sun here. I would expect in less extreme conditions they be most happy in full sun short of getting sunburned.
I have heard many people speak about plants that thrive “on neglect” I disagree. My perspective comes from what can be a debilitating obsessive compulsive disorder. I recently came across a source with an advisor: stop fussing with your plants! Plants like consistency and those of us who like to move them around or change up the care in the belief that we add something new to the mix we can pamper them even more. All this fussing is counterproductive. I had to laugh when I realized how much I was thwarting them instead of helping them. For all the succulents I let die slowly “neglecting them” for their own good, while I sometimes can feel like I was foolish for taking the sentiment literally, it’s nonetheless a foolish thing to say about a plant when perhaps it is better to say, just don’t fuss over them too much.
That said, the care for these plants is really about learning how to optimize the light, the water in the nutrients that they need to get the most explosive growth you want Right now I am experimenting with increasing my watering frequency, and seeing whether that permit symptoms grow even faster I’d mind in 50% indoor potting mix 50% per light only in porous terra-cotta pots that allow the air to breathe so that they don’t get right and right now it’s just a matter of figuring out how much water they actually want instead of being so brisk verse about it mindful that they are more vulnerable to asphyxiating than a tropical plant might be
Nutritionally they don’t need a lot of nutrition because they are so adaptable but that’s not to say you can’t get better growth out of optimize nutrition Nonetheless calcium is the key. Calcium is essential for succulents because it strengthens cell walls, regulates physiological processes, and promotes overall plant health. It supports root development, stress tolerance, and resistance to diseases and pests, crucial for succulents thriving in arid environments. I like a product called cactus juice that provides extra calcium for succulents.
I appreciate them in the same way I appreciate a Great White Shark. Its awe-inspiring status arises from its remarkable evolutionary adaptations, all finely tuned for its role as an apex predator that evokes both fear and admiration
When I look at a Mother of Thousands , I see the botanical counterpart to the Great White. The plant comes from Madagascar, which broke off from the other continent(s) over 80 million years ago where its Floria and fauna evolved in isolation. The combination of highly sophisticated evolutionary adaptions suggest that survival in Madagascar must have particularly cutthroat. While many plants can produce so prolifically, I am unaware of any plant that produces such viable offspring in such numbers—in such a short amount of time. (keyword : viable) Within a growing cycle —-it makes thousands upon thousands of viable offspring as if it’s preparing for Armageddon. . As Grayson noted, they will grow anywhere, suggesting an adaptation resulting from particularly extreme conditions.
However, it would appear that merely proliferating armies of viable offspring was not enough to survive as the plant has an adaptation, wherein it releases toxins in the soil so nothing else can grow.
In sum, this plant is not merely an invader, it evolved for conquest. It will grow wherever it lands, it will quickly form colonies, and it will poison the soil and kill the flora in its path to build an empire.
Not the kind of neighbor you’d hope for. Lol. But I am in awe of the plant because it’s the closest thing to an apex predator, botanically speaking.
If you are a fan of musicals, perhaps you may recognize the Mother of Thousands plant as Audrey 2 from Little Shop of Horrors. Lol
While the real plant is not man-eating, like Audrey 2, they do grow….really fast, proven, you give them what they want.
Because they have survived from such extreme conditions, they are highly adaptable. You can keep them in, bright, indirect light, indoors if you want. But that will not give them enough light for explosive growth.
I live in South Texas, which becomes a hellscape of glaring infrared light that scorches these plants when they are in full sun here. I would expect in less extreme conditions they be most happy in full sun short of getting sunburned.
I have heard many people speak about plants that thrive “on neglect” I disagree. My perspective comes from what can be a debilitating obsessive compulsive disorder. I recently came across a source with an advisor: stop fussing with your plants! Plants like consistency and those of us who like to move them around or change up the care in the belief that we add something new to the mix we can pamper them even more. All this fussing is counterproductive. I had to laugh when I realized how much I was thwarting them instead of helping them. For all the succulents I let die slowly “neglecting them” for their own good, while I sometimes can feel like I was foolish for taking the sentiment literally, it’s nonetheless a foolish thing to say about a plant when perhaps it is better to say, just don’t fuss over them too much.
That said, the care for these plants is really about learning how to optimize the light, the water in the nutrients that they need to get the most explosive growth you want Right now I am experimenting with increasing my watering frequency, and seeing whether that permit symptoms grow even faster I’d mind in 50% indoor potting mix 50% per light only in porous terra-cotta pots that allow the air to breathe so that they don’t get right and right now it’s just a matter of figuring out how much water they actually want instead of being so brisk verse about it mindful that they are more vulnerable to asphyxiating than a tropical plant might be
Nutritionally they don’t need a lot of nutrition because they are so adaptable but that’s not to say you can’t get better growth out of optimize nutrition Nonetheless calcium is the key. Calcium is essential for succulents because it strengthens cell walls, regulates physiological processes, and promotes overall plant health. It supports root development, stress tolerance, and resistance to diseases and pests, crucial for succulents thriving in arid environments. I like a product called cactus juice that provides extra calcium for succulents.
@TexanExpat wow. Thank you in all sincerity for that awesome dissertation! I learn soooo much from everyone, who all want to share their knowledge and expertise…tips & tricks, plus sharing leaves and pups!
I really loved reading the history of this rather badass plant. Incredibly fascinating stuff! I love Kalanchoes. Especially the fuzzy ones. Yes, I pet my plants. They don’t seem to mind.
And I have been warned about being a helicopter mom, I like to check on everyone every morning, have chats. I never thought I would be a plant person, have always done better with animals but have always been fascinated by succulents and I am so grateful that they’re my healthiest obsession and I just love this community for being such a fantastic environment. While we’re here with the same mission to keep our flora thriving, we are also supporting each other and it’s such a wonderful wonderful thing. Big love to everyone here #GregGang #SucculentSquad #SucculentLove #PlantsMakePeopleHappy #HappyPlants #PlantTherapy
I really loved reading the history of this rather badass plant. Incredibly fascinating stuff! I love Kalanchoes. Especially the fuzzy ones. Yes, I pet my plants. They don’t seem to mind.
And I have been warned about being a helicopter mom, I like to check on everyone every morning, have chats. I never thought I would be a plant person, have always done better with animals but have always been fascinated by succulents and I am so grateful that they’re my healthiest obsession and I just love this community for being such a fantastic environment. While we’re here with the same mission to keep our flora thriving, we are also supporting each other and it’s such a wonderful wonderful thing. Big love to everyone here #GregGang #SucculentSquad #SucculentLove #PlantsMakePeopleHappy #HappyPlants #PlantTherapy
@PoniesAndPlants you’re very welcome and I’m glad you enjoyed it. It’s kinda strange being able to nerd out and be appreciated lol. Not used to it these days. Keep I mind that I doubt you will ever find a book that discusses conquest as an evolutionary adaption lol. I could defend it like a thesis because it’s my idea but I just want to clarify I don’t mean to represent my viewpoint as a consensus lol. Greg is a lovely community. I’ve been on here a few years and whether are on the best behavior or the community just brings out the best in people, I’ve never seen anything less than everybody bringing the best versions of themselves here
@TexanExpat so, I am a nerd and proud of it but plants have only recently been in my wheelhouse, but I refuse social media because I find it toxic, but I keep meeting the most ambitious people here. I’m currently completing my doctorate in clinical psychology and in a million years I would not have foreseen what I found here. And it’s also inspired me to offer “plant therapy” for some of my clients because not everyone loves or understands animals but plants are for most people less intimidating. But being able to nurture another living thing and slowly seeing results is tremendously gratifying. Never thought I’d find myself here but tremendously blessed and grateful
@PoniesAndPlants thank you for sharing that with me. I grew up in Texas but I moved to the east coast for undergrad and I very seriously dated a psychology student for most of the years I was there. Being from Texas and the pressure to conform had made that a confusing time for me and my girl friend and I ended up ending this amicably as a result of not being able to make it work with a girl. I share this anecdote to provide context for a conversation I had with her. A few years ago when I clearly had the onset, but not the diagnosis for PTSD, that exacerbated my other underlying conditions in ways that no one ever told me were so dangerous. When I talked to her I told that understanding why my diagnoses are treated the way they are. For example, I would bet money if I got diagnosed with diabetes, they would sit me down and tell me it was fatal, it could result in amputations, diminished mobility and quality of life, and basically a heads up that it is a terrible way to die with lots of suffering UNLESS I was vigilant. So I don’t understand why no one sat me down and explained to me what an absolutely dangerous diagnosis and anxiety disorder is. How it can take control of your life completely, turn you into a freak if you agoraphobic….or that as result a result of the stigma that I need to be careful because the diagnosis means I have a much higher chance dying in a prison because that’s what society does with the mentally ill ad it is preferable having to coexist with them in shared spaces. In any event, her response ro all of that was that she remembered me telling her something one time that wasn’t a bad thing, but she remembers it because it has this sort of “fateful” dynamic. I said to her I admitted he for studying psychology but for me myself it would be too much agony having such expertise in the event something happened to me—-knowing all the inner machinations of my psyche and being able to check off each stage of whether process. It would be like having the voice inside my head becoming Bob Costas or some other sportscaster narrating the play by play on my demise into psychosis. Maybe a better way to explain it would be to say that I would rather not know the gory details like an expert of snake venom would because if I got bit a snake, it would be agony knowing what each new sensation must signify as the venom progressed through its destruction. I wrote my honors thesis on Shakespeare, and we would have called this “foreshadowing”. If you read Julius Caesar, which j think most of us do in high school, “beware the idea of march is an example of foreshadowing and my ex fed told me that when I told her about how I admitted her for studying psychology but for me personally it would be to scary, at the time it registered for her as a “beware the ides type moment” and that is why it always stayed in her memory. In any event I have the utmost admiration and reverence for those caring practitioners and your enthusiasm evidences to me you are of this sort. I do have some insight on horticultural therapy. I have tried many things, honestly there was a time I wound have gone to a Santeria practitioner for relief if I thought it would help but I started at therapy. I realized the Dutch golden age still life floral paintings along with the William Morris botanical prints elevated my mood. Well why not try some actual plants. My experience with how the plants, which are basically my Barbie dolls even though I’m like a 45 yo man, because if I’m having a panic attack the only thing that ease my anxiety or calm my affliction or manage to cope the instant crisis is to start messing with plants. Tend to their needs grooming them etc. I can’t remember the context but there was this anecdote about a little girl who was found braiding the hair on her doll in the front yard while her family’s house behind her was in flames. That’s me except the doll is my plants. I found this fascinating so I have been rewind on the topic and might I sugggest to you the book The Biophyllia Hypothesis by Stephen Keller and Edward Wilson. I am just someone who came upon this as a personal interest but I imagine that this is a seminal work —or if it’s not it needs to be—for anyone wanting the Origen story for, something as specific of horticultural therapy, or some one like me who is looking for some innate meaning in life. In sum the Biophyllia hypothesis is that humanity evolved with nature and that even though we lived with nature for 99% of our evolutionary history, we have recently, 1907 I think, severed our connection with nature moving into climate controlled environments. I haven’t gotten through many of the essays but I expect the hypothesis to be that we have caused unknown damage to our species our likelihood—or not—of survival as species. I encourage you to look into concepts like “Forrest bathing,” which for you might actually be a modality. Look into byophillic design and google the Singapore airport and think about why having a 6 layover there might not be such a bad thing when I’d rather get shot in the face point blank spending another six hours in Dulles international airport. I recently enrolled in a my communities master naturalism program. This is kind of hilarious considering I was too fancy everything out doors except for tennis and golf growing up. But I think becoming involved in this program will allow me take my tragedies and what I have learned from them in service for the benefit of others. I think it would be very cool teaching suburban families how to create wildlife habitat out of their side yards so they can wake up to sounds of songbirds in the morning, the the dances of butterfly ballerinas among the wildflower matrix , perhaps they have fresh fruit from the garden for breakfast as the watch the mischief of the squirrels and the toads. Or perhaps it is helpjng denizens of bohemian enclaves with. Selecting suitable aroids for their dimly light lifestyles. It has been my experience that incorporating nature or merging with nature, first with houseplants and next I am learning how to replace the ecological wreckage of what we Americans choose to do with our front and back yards with habitat for us to live among nature again has both profound physiological and psychological ramifications. Not that I expect you to check in with me in ten years as you get in to your career, he perhaps I can offer you a better foreshadowing than I did eaiet in this post. Perhaps my plants are like my dolls and ease my anxiety better than anything short of a horse tranquilizer or bop in the head by a coconut because there is merit to the Biophyllia hypothesis. Perhaps forest baiting is practiced in Japan as a treatment for so many medical conditions because it works. Perhaps even the prints of paintings of flowers they were made more than 400 years ago, not even flowers themselvefinish the Biophyllia hypothesis I’m thjning about reading the book of genesis and seeing whether it takes on new meaning. houseplant but just pictures of them elevated my mood not so much because nature is a panacea per se, but because we cannot severe ourselves from nature any more than we can severe ourselves from each other. Consider inmates like Alexy Navalny who was put in solitary confinement. Some people live for years in that type of enforcement Some don’t last very long. Either way, it’s certainly not a sustainable means of living to say fbs least. Or perhaps —not living. I would expect the Russians knew that putting him and other dissidents is something done to shorten their life span or augment their torture. It must be more agony for the person who knows he will eventually lose his mind without any human interaction. The ignorant person doesn’t have to witness that happen. What my girl friend remembered about me from college is that I basically made a conscious decision to spare myself from the misery of bearing witness to the terrible things the happen as mental health declines. Perhaps your exploration of humanity’s connection with plants, be it. Through horticultural therapy or beyond , will allow you to do for your patients what alexy navalys lawyers could not do for him. By this I mean, the lawyers know what solitary confinement will do to someone, it’s not rocket science given the damage and decline in healthy and humanity to the inmate is desired effect of the punishment. The lawyers want to reconnect him with other humans because they know that is a life of suffering. Yet they were unable to do that because the state would not allow it. But you wouldn’t have any such obstacles in your way to block the restoration of your patients connection to nature. I think our disconnect from nature is akin to being put in solitary confinement. We have no clue of what the damage has been. Lastly Summer Rayne Oaks “How to make a plant love you” I think would give you fantastic insight. Good luck
@TexanExpat Well, I am trying to decide the best answer that will be potentially helpful. Let’s start with “Hi John, I’m Heather, I would love to hear your story if and when you choose to share. I too have experienced my share of too much shit, and I am not a theorist but a survivor as well, that appears to be a relatively common thread here, which makes it that much more beautiful. I think that individuals who have experienced the unspeakable go in one of two directions: you can become an antisocial predator and act out what you lived yet this time you have the power & control, or you can go the polar opposite and want to make your suffering meaningful to other living beings on the planet. The latter is what I found here and it’s profound and beautiful. My primary goal when licensed is to use horses as one of the most powerful mediums possible. Animals saved me and still do. But plants are a less demanding, but equally gratifying form of nurturing another living being the way we never were but so long for to have been nurtured
@TexanExpat I have so many thoughts here, I don’t really know where to begin but there is much to respond with the care and thought they deserve. You touched on so many rather profound things tonight & I want to specifically honor and look at them. However ironically you mentioned Shakespeare and my bio mom was an English teacher and she adored him, for good reason. He basically covers the gamut of human folly. Thank you for the reading recommendations, I would love to examine those. My saving creatures in this world are horses, they can do an incredibly powerful and fast understanding of where someone is in the moment but also pull out patterns of relating. I happen to work with them at the most “likely to be injured” realm, working with babies& hormonal 3.4 ton animals, yet those injuries are just flesh wounds.
So…there is a lot there, and I would be privileged to discuss much of those things if you so chose. I will offer my email and whether or not you choose to use it is your choice: Venus_envy63@yahoo. I don’t check that frequently so if you choose to utilize it, please just shoot me a heads up. Regardless of all that was previously said…please know you are not alone, please believe (this is tremendously difficult I understand) it was never about you nor was any of it your fault, there are many people who can relate and some of us can stand somewhat on the other side and say that while there will always be scars, those are also the strongest places because we have physically healed them. Unfortunately it is far too common, tremendously misunderstood and frequently very poorly treated. But please believe me when I say this: it need not be a death sentence. I wish all the best and even if now isn’t the time, please hold onto my email. Sending healing white light, positive energy and a virtual hug
@TexanExpat Thank you for all this incredible information about my Mother of Millions!! Very interesting about where it comes from and how it’s adapted and evolved. Had no idea about the toxins it produces. 😳
I’m not sure I ever saw Little Shop of Horrors, but do remember seeing the pic of the plant from it. I always thought it was a VFT, but from the pic you posted it looks like a Mother of Thousands with a VFT growing in the middle. 😂
I appreciate you taking your time to share your knowledge regarding this plant, along with some humor about the Little Shop of Horror (and *nerding out* -🤓 love that! and also enjoy it!) and then your vulnerability in talking about your mental health and the therapeutic value of plants/plant care. I find the same to be true and I see many people here have also found that. I am an advocate of openly sharing about mental health and diagnoses as a way to reduce stigma, to help others who also experience various diagnoses and to educate people who do not have these issues about those of us who do. There’s soooo much more to say about this subject and your posts here. For now though I hope you are enjoying your day and your plants 🪴🌵🌸 and that the sun is shining over y’all in Texas. 😊 ☀️
I’m not sure I ever saw Little Shop of Horrors, but do remember seeing the pic of the plant from it. I always thought it was a VFT, but from the pic you posted it looks like a Mother of Thousands with a VFT growing in the middle. 😂
I appreciate you taking your time to share your knowledge regarding this plant, along with some humor about the Little Shop of Horror (and *nerding out* -🤓 love that! and also enjoy it!) and then your vulnerability in talking about your mental health and the therapeutic value of plants/plant care. I find the same to be true and I see many people here have also found that. I am an advocate of openly sharing about mental health and diagnoses as a way to reduce stigma, to help others who also experience various diagnoses and to educate people who do not have these issues about those of us who do. There’s soooo much more to say about this subject and your posts here. For now though I hope you are enjoying your day and your plants 🪴🌵🌸 and that the sun is shining over y’all in Texas. 😊 ☀️
@PoniesAndPlants thank you for your email can you continue you got my message from my email. It was not readily apparent to me at the outset about how even though people’s reactions to me were about me as the subject, the reasons why they responded rhetorically way they did were not about me. It takes a certain of strength to accept that yet the irony isn’t really fully appreciated that I often falls on the afflicted to bridge the gap between the shortcomings of the people in their lives not because it is their prerogative but often because they are the ones with the strength. I have to be the magnanimous one because my family doesnt know how. They can no more fovercime their shortcomings any more than they can fly. They don’t have wings either.
@PoniesAndPlants I appreciate any time you have to give. Please don’t rush on my account. Kick some statistical ass and I’m around to share in ur victory lap
Haha will do! I love it. Thank you!