Morning light. I'm in love. #happyplants #hoya #hoyahango...
Morning light. I'm in love. #happyplants #hoya #hoyahangout
@Just1More thank you ๐
The trellis is about 50cm/~1.7/1.8 high. I assumed that's the measurement you wanted for comparison? Because the plant itself is wound around it, so it is at least three times that in length without trellis.
The trellis is about 50cm/~1.7/1.8 high. I assumed that's the measurement you wanted for comparison? Because the plant itself is wound around it, so it is at least three times that in length without trellis.
@MusicalRedmint ๐คฉ๐คฉ how long have you had this one? Ooh! And do they have a particular scent?
@DreamMachine Hmm... almost as long as I've been interested in hoyas? Half a year shorter than I'm on Greg? Wait. I'll look it up if I can.
Oh and scent. Yes. But.... I'm not sure that is a plus in her case. Very earthy and spicy. Intense enough to spread. For now not unpleasant, but I'm aware she has only one peduncle for now and just opened the blooms, so we'll see...
Oh and scent. Yes. But.... I'm not sure that is a plus in her case. Very earthy and spicy. Intense enough to spread. For now not unpleasant, but I'm aware she has only one peduncle for now and just opened the blooms, so we'll see...
@FabSwisspine45 ๐
@DreamMachine two years, almost to a day. From an unrooted, one-leaf cutting. And I've taken at least 5 cuttings since.
@DreamMachine Oh, and off topic, like so very often: on my search for the first picture of the SAO111, I just stumbled over another picture from around that time and had to laugh.... and also grimace in slight concern. in case you want to share my amusement, I went to take a picture of that same spot today for comparison (it's usually not quite as messy and also has a different variety of plants, and the board to the left has pots in it as well, but I've been moving stuff around and it still highlights illustrate the cause of my concern very well, I think. Even more so, if you consider that this is just one spot in my home and others have undergone even worse.... developments within the space of just two years๐ฌ๐ซฃ
@MusicalRedmint oh I do love a good before and after ๐ I too haveโฆseveral spaces in my home that have undergone the same treatment. And ooo I need to find some clips like those ๐ค ok focus! Re this lovely plant-scape, I cannot be anything but an enabler. Looks beautiful and luscious and healthy ๐ฅฐ Keep up the good work.
Interesting about the SAO11 scent. I just rediscovered a much-loved solid amber perfume at the bottom of a drawer, but Iโm guessing not *that* kind of earthy and spicy ๐
Interesting about the SAO11 scent. I just rediscovered a much-loved solid amber perfume at the bottom of a drawer, but Iโm guessing not *that* kind of earthy and spicy ๐
@DreamMachine hey, those were at least spaces that at that point were dedicated for plants already. I can immediately list at least 6 that at that point were 100%plant free and, you know, used for normal non-planty stuff. ๐ซฃ
And thank you. I myself am not happy with it rn, though. I went to a plant "flea" market 2 weeks ago and had no energy to put everything back in its "correct" place again, yet. I love that plant wall against the lilac backdrop and rn it has become just a messy space full of disorder props. I had planned to get off my behind today to attack that task, but life has decided to give me another unwarranted kick to the shin instead, so no plant space cleanup today, yet again, thank you very much ๐ .
Do you mean those white clips? Love them, though they are freakishly overpriced. They belong to the "white organizing board thingy line" (โข๏ธ ๐) by ikea.
Even despite the price they are one of the best plantspot add ons I've found in the last years. They are very sturdy, blend into the background and can even carry the weight of/ be attached to bigger pots, as long as the soil isn't too heavy and the decorative pot is plastic.
That also goes for other stuff from the (*sigh*) "white organizing board thingy line" (โข๏ธ . ... okay, okay, I'll go look up the name๐คฆโโ๏ธ and while I do so, take some pictures to better illustrate what I mean. In the hopes you even meant those ๐ )
And thank you. I myself am not happy with it rn, though. I went to a plant "flea" market 2 weeks ago and had no energy to put everything back in its "correct" place again, yet. I love that plant wall against the lilac backdrop and rn it has become just a messy space full of disorder props. I had planned to get off my behind today to attack that task, but life has decided to give me another unwarranted kick to the shin instead, so no plant space cleanup today, yet again, thank you very much ๐ .
Do you mean those white clips? Love them, though they are freakishly overpriced. They belong to the "white organizing board thingy line" (โข๏ธ ๐) by ikea.
Even despite the price they are one of the best plantspot add ons I've found in the last years. They are very sturdy, blend into the background and can even carry the weight of/ be attached to bigger pots, as long as the soil isn't too heavy and the decorative pot is plastic.
That also goes for other stuff from the (*sigh*) "white organizing board thingy line" (โข๏ธ . ... okay, okay, I'll go look up the name๐คฆโโ๏ธ and while I do so, take some pictures to better illustrate what I mean. In the hopes you even meant those ๐ )
@DreamMachine re scent: you should talk to my hoya lady. Her opinions on fragrance are just as firm as my own. And she really isn't a fan of the SAO111's scent, either, if I remember correctly
Oh. And it's "skรฅdis".
See what I mean? Those boards are also sold in the context of that line, but for perfectly on my two ikea plant stands, because those hooks have just the correct measurements to fit on the edges. And they even fit my ladder flower pot setup because the slight incline keeps it perfectly level.
See what I mean? Those boards are also sold in the context of that line, but for perfectly on my two ikea plant stands, because those hooks have just the correct measurements to fit on the edges. And they even fit my ladder flower pot setup because the slight incline keeps it perfectly level.
@MusicalRedmint ooh yes, those are just what I was talking about, for the โwhite organizing board thingy line โข๏ธโ (It doesnโt matter what itโs official name is now, it will forever in my mind be thus ๐) Thank you for showing me the other side of the clips! I was watching Miro and wondering how he was so nonchalantly attaching hoya pots onto the trellis/grid of a cabinet!
I do love your lilac wall. ๐ฅฐ Condolences for your proverbial shin kick ๐ I have been feeling somewhat the same with my chaotic amount of plants in the room that is supposed to be an office/craft room. I would love to organize but things keep getting in my way! I donโt even know if I could post a pictureโฆ๐ฌ Ooh also, what did you get at the plant flea market? ๐
I do love your lilac wall. ๐ฅฐ Condolences for your proverbial shin kick ๐ I have been feeling somewhat the same with my chaotic amount of plants in the room that is supposed to be an office/craft room. I would love to organize but things keep getting in my way! I donโt even know if I could post a pictureโฆ๐ฌ Ooh also, what did you get at the plant flea market? ๐
@Southernmom thanks ๐
@DreamMachine I went there to sell not to buy. Went decently well. (Basically drew even, after going into a macrame hyperfocus one month before the thing, only to only sell one single hanger. So let's just say, I recouped the cost of materials, have a s-load of new beautiful hangers I won't use. And might have used the few euros I had in profit to "invest" into the delicious cakes on sale, as well as a string of turtle cutting I already half destroyed and a gorgeous decorative pot that doesn't suit any of my plants/plantshelves rn. So, business as usual ๐.
Well yeah, could have done without the shin kick. Was more like a baseball bat to the shin. Strange dude who scared me witless. Thought that was impossible in my advanced age, but here we go. Pulse is normalized now, though, the SAO111 is stinking happily, Mr. Sleepy is sleeping at my feet and I'm envisioning a chaotic lush fairy craftroom. All's well and all that...
Well yeah, could have done without the shin kick. Was more like a baseball bat to the shin. Strange dude who scared me witless. Thought that was impossible in my advanced age, but here we go. Pulse is normalized now, though, the SAO111 is stinking happily, Mr. Sleepy is sleeping at my feet and I'm envisioning a chaotic lush fairy craftroom. All's well and all that...
@DreamMachine Oh, and of course, bonus pics. I conveniently forgot that she is one of the few big nectar producers I got despite my better judgment. But at least it's pretty before it gets annoying
@MusicalRedmint ACKKGH!! Here I was thinking maybe you got another cold. ๐ณ๐ฑIcky yuck yuck!! Im so so glad you are safe now. You are safe right!? Iโm glad Mr. Sleepy is there with you โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
@MusicalRedmint and Iโm laughing (with you, not at you!) at the macrame hyperfocus, cakes, string of turtle cutting, and the beautiful pot that doesnโt go with anything ๐ Doesnโt sound familiar at all. Nope. Not at all I tell you!
@DreamMachine thought you might be able to relate to bits of that ๐
Nah, it's all good. i think. safe but paranoid. Just came in a string of bad luck and I'm all about out of energy at this point (because yes, health issues also give me a run for my... well, whatever else, because certainly not my money.
Came back from a walk with Mr. Sleepy, was approached by someone who seemed a bit out of sorts, but decent enough, so I stopped, in case I could help with something. He asked something extremely sus which would give him a reason to enter my home or at least see me enter it, and which made no sense at all. Which was doubly creepy because it made even less sense of he didn't know where I lived, which was basically right across the street from where he approached me. I politely declined and told him I didn't live around here and kept walking, spooked af. He also started walking and muttering angrily to himself - or me. I called myself paranoid for continuing down the street, because, really, this was ridiculous: it was in the late afternoon, a comfy extremely safe residential area with lots of people on the streets. The few people with drug or more apparent mental health problems around my area I know by sight and have never had any issues with. and it probably was just coincidence that he still walked behind me... but boy, that dude gave me the creeps. In the end I listened to my gut and entered a small coffee shop a few roads down that luckily had its door still open, though the barrista was already preparing to close. I quietly asked if I could stay for two minutes because I thought I was followed, she nodded of course, I felt absolutely stupid, and before I could say anything else that dude who yes, clearly had been following, had taken the big dog water bowl that had still been outside the shop and thrown out across the still open door in our direction, splashing water everywhere.
Then I guess he cursed some more and continued on his way. Or at least I think he did.
Truly, I've had people curse me out, and really obscenely too, have had jobs situations in which I placed myself right in the middle of seriously fighting human beings to stop the fights, including heavy furniture thrown at people. Without blinking twice. I regularly walked home through dark spaces including risky areas and parks at 3 in the morning, without any paranoia apart from sensible safety measures. I'm good under pressure and am not easily cowed by your typical posturing aggressive man. Really. But that dude and the fact where i met him, seriously creeped me out to the point that led me to lock my door when I finally got home. Which I never do. I even sometimes was too lazy to close my apartment door completely when I hop out with Mr Sleepy in the middle of the night for a quick pee (him, not me). That's how safe my neighborhood feels to me. Or rather, felt. But don't worry, I'm safe. I think. And stinking mad. Give me a day, and I'll be okay again. No way, that dude gets to scare me for longer than that.
Nah, it's all good. i think. safe but paranoid. Just came in a string of bad luck and I'm all about out of energy at this point (because yes, health issues also give me a run for my... well, whatever else, because certainly not my money.
Came back from a walk with Mr. Sleepy, was approached by someone who seemed a bit out of sorts, but decent enough, so I stopped, in case I could help with something. He asked something extremely sus which would give him a reason to enter my home or at least see me enter it, and which made no sense at all. Which was doubly creepy because it made even less sense of he didn't know where I lived, which was basically right across the street from where he approached me. I politely declined and told him I didn't live around here and kept walking, spooked af. He also started walking and muttering angrily to himself - or me. I called myself paranoid for continuing down the street, because, really, this was ridiculous: it was in the late afternoon, a comfy extremely safe residential area with lots of people on the streets. The few people with drug or more apparent mental health problems around my area I know by sight and have never had any issues with. and it probably was just coincidence that he still walked behind me... but boy, that dude gave me the creeps. In the end I listened to my gut and entered a small coffee shop a few roads down that luckily had its door still open, though the barrista was already preparing to close. I quietly asked if I could stay for two minutes because I thought I was followed, she nodded of course, I felt absolutely stupid, and before I could say anything else that dude who yes, clearly had been following, had taken the big dog water bowl that had still been outside the shop and thrown out across the still open door in our direction, splashing water everywhere.
Then I guess he cursed some more and continued on his way. Or at least I think he did.
Truly, I've had people curse me out, and really obscenely too, have had jobs situations in which I placed myself right in the middle of seriously fighting human beings to stop the fights, including heavy furniture thrown at people. Without blinking twice. I regularly walked home through dark spaces including risky areas and parks at 3 in the morning, without any paranoia apart from sensible safety measures. I'm good under pressure and am not easily cowed by your typical posturing aggressive man. Really. But that dude and the fact where i met him, seriously creeped me out to the point that led me to lock my door when I finally got home. Which I never do. I even sometimes was too lazy to close my apartment door completely when I hop out with Mr Sleepy in the middle of the night for a quick pee (him, not me). That's how safe my neighborhood feels to me. Or rather, felt. But don't worry, I'm safe. I think. And stinking mad. Give me a day, and I'll be okay again. No way, that dude gets to scare me for longer than that.
@DreamMachine regarding Mr Sleepy though, erhm... yes, it's great he is here. He is great for emotional comfort. You do know, though, that he is the least aggressive dog anybody will ever meet, right? Removing a deep-seated thorn from his paw? All good. Other dogs biting him? Looking at me with confused big eyes, no thought of self-defense. Aggressive dude stalking us, me waking in fear right past our home? Rarely seen perfect "heel" position adapting to my increased pace and shooting me confused and worried looks. Dude throwing water bowl at us? Moment of surprise, deepest confusion yet, then after an inner shrug, proceeding to lap up the water on the floor ๐คฃ he is a darling, but I honestly considered taking him with me to an appointment tomorrow because I was worried that dude might still watch and break in, and no way I'm leaving that trusting helpless doofus home alone under those circumstances ๐
@MusicalRedmint ๐ตโ๐ซ That is So creepy ๐ซฃ Thank goodness you did keep walking, and the coffee shop was still open! ๐ฎโ๐จ That show of anger would suggest to me he had no idea where you actually lived and he was pissed his โIncredible Planโ fell apart. Wow.
@MusicalRedmint omg ๐ awww Mr Sleepy I love him ๐ฅฐ Youโre his protector ๐ฅน
@DreamMachine not so sure. His aggression seems usual "that bitch doesn't give me what I want/ lied to me" to me as well (though, I seldom have that problem in similar encounters, when I say no). But he very clearly was asking for access to my home under a pretense (something about a friend's mug he broke and if I could give him one). Had he approached me for money or even a phone call that would have been okay. If he had approached me some streets away? Great. It even paradoxically would have given me more peace of mind if he had approached me in front of my door while I was unlocking it. He could have seen where I lived and spontaneously decided to try his grift. But him asking me to go get a mug directly in front of my door with me coming from a different area? Naah. Don't even. Nothing in my demeanor or circumstance in that second would have indicated to him, my home was indeed close enough to give his request even a semblance of a chance. Lots of parks around, dog owners going for long walks, me at - thankfully - still a brisk pace. So either he was certifiably insane or somehow already knew where I lived and either recognized me or waited for me. None of those three options seems great from where I stand.
@DreamMachine and don't worry, even without the coffee shop it would have been okay. As I said, there were lots of people around. I was glad about the coffee shop because I assumed it gave him and me an easier out in case he really was following me to prove me wrong that I didn't live somewhere else. I thought approaching people on the street would be a clearer sign of confrontation to him, if that makes sense. Whereas me entering a shop would have been more innocuous and non- confrontational (especially if he didn't know the opening schedule). Like I was just going in for a drink and had not even noticed him, but clearly wouldn't continue soon. No additional hit to his pride, if that really was the issue. Which it probably was, plus a good dose of anger issues and lack of impulse control. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
@MusicalRedmint oh ICK. ๐คฎ Well that would be enough to throw me off balance, at least for the time being. Hoping heโs insane enough to not even know what he was ๐ณ ๐ Be extra safe ๐ซ
@MusicalRedmint I totally understand and agree with those thoughts, and have had many instances where I worked out the same things, and at the same time it is so mind boggling that we, as women/women identifying/etc have to do all of that mental gymnastics to make sure we donโt get accosted or murdered. ๐คธโโ๏ธ๐ตโ๐ซ
@DreamMachine, that's another thing, until he started cursing, he seemed lucid enough to me. At the very least lucid enough to remember the perceived slight and the area.
But yeah. Hope he was maybe just high and won't remember the face (or the beagle that's sadly not the worst identifier even if you can't remember the person) of the woman that had the audacity to not get him a mug from her home ๐ฌ
Yeah. I know. I've always felt I've been in a rather privileged situation over here, because I'm the grand scheme of things at least, Germany is comparatively safe for at least cis women, I've additionally always lived in relatively safe circumstances and I've been given various tools to protect myself. (Again, walking through the city alone at 4 in the morning is no biggie) And yet. Lots and lots of the "typical" experiences you really don't want. Which in my eyes only highlights the problem even more. Because, if it's that bad already under those circumstances, then, may politely ask: WTF?
But yeah. Hope he was maybe just high and won't remember the face (or the beagle that's sadly not the worst identifier even if you can't remember the person) of the woman that had the audacity to not get him a mug from her home ๐ฌ
Yeah. I know. I've always felt I've been in a rather privileged situation over here, because I'm the grand scheme of things at least, Germany is comparatively safe for at least cis women, I've additionally always lived in relatively safe circumstances and I've been given various tools to protect myself. (Again, walking through the city alone at 4 in the morning is no biggie) And yet. Lots and lots of the "typical" experiences you really don't want. Which in my eyes only highlights the problem even more. Because, if it's that bad already under those circumstances, then, may politely ask: WTF?
@MusicalRedmint ooh! Is that some sort of splash? Iโm newer to Hoyas; long-time planter, short-time houseplant grower ๐คฃ and even shorter time in the Hoya world! So please tell me all your tricks so I can get such gorgeous blooms!
Hi, @Idplantthat. Yes, the leaves have splash. I suspect one of the parents (maybe the pubicalyx) was a bit splashy. Often even hoyas that don't get the attribute "splash" in the name also can be quite splashy and when you buy "splash" versions of those, those then are reeeeealy splashy (eg. The serpens, Mathilde, lacunosa, carnosa...: those I have are all splashy, but the Matilde's "natural" splash eg couldn't hold a candle to the splash version of you compare them).
As for blooming: I don't do anything special. Sometimes, I look up the specific plants on vermonthoyas' site because the specific blooming triggers (temperature, light/photoperiod, age) can vary quite a bit. Especially age. What kind of hoyas do you have? Eg. most carnosas only bloom after a few years, while I've had my bella and lacunosas produce their first peduncles after less than a year already. And often light is one of the reasons they don't bloom even though they are already mature again. Either because they need quite a bit of it (again, carnosas are a prime example), or because the light they get is from artificial light sources and they need conditions that mimic seasonal changes in "day" light periods or temperature.
Apart from that: I highly recommend the Vermonthoyas website for specific info and e.g. basie plants on youtube for just general information (on care, difficulties, nerd extra knowlege etc) of you like just listening to informative stuff in the background anyway.
As for blooming: I don't do anything special. Sometimes, I look up the specific plants on vermonthoyas' site because the specific blooming triggers (temperature, light/photoperiod, age) can vary quite a bit. Especially age. What kind of hoyas do you have? Eg. most carnosas only bloom after a few years, while I've had my bella and lacunosas produce their first peduncles after less than a year already. And often light is one of the reasons they don't bloom even though they are already mature again. Either because they need quite a bit of it (again, carnosas are a prime example), or because the light they get is from artificial light sources and they need conditions that mimic seasonal changes in "day" light periods or temperature.
Apart from that: I highly recommend the Vermonthoyas website for specific info and e.g. basie plants on youtube for just general information (on care, difficulties, nerd extra knowlege etc) of you like just listening to informative stuff in the background anyway.
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