What a difference 3 weeks has made for these #FreshLeafFr...
What a difference 3 weeks has made for these #FreshLeafFriday Hoya Latifolia leaves! 🌱 (the before pic is last)
From SO SO tiny to almost the size of my palm 😮 Hoyas are quickly becoming some of my favorites… lots of varieties, tough as nails, and they seem to like my bookshelf grow lights!!! 💚
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From SO SO tiny to almost the size of my palm 😮 Hoyas are quickly becoming some of my favorites… lots of varieties, tough as nails, and they seem to like my bookshelf grow lights!!! 💚
#PlantsMakePeopleHappy #HappyPlants #TheWateringHole #debbiedo
@RefinedSandwort @MariansOasis @DreamMachine @princesspitstop @Jho @CutePolypremum @Lynsplants @Preciousplants1 @Idplantthat @peixe.pt @Dawgfreak @FamedGymealily @CactusAdjacent @Ponytailmom @RealSimpleMama @FitBrowallia @elisenavidad @ZappyLilac84 @GardenCat43 @SuperbRaspfern @Forbes57 @BEsucculent @Ananyaplantluv1 @savandtalloo @Luvlilu @Boymom-plantmom @BabeVila @lynnluvsplants @mamalinne @sarah10orio @TooUnique1
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@Preciousplants1 Aw thank you Sherri! 🥰 Tinkering with my plant arrangements is one of my favorite pasttimes 😁
@DreamMachine @debbiedo
latifolia for the win. For me it's more of the shape and the texture of the leaves that does it, specifically.
And I love how we always find the best euphemisms for what is happening to us. I would elaborate, but I don't have time. I am off to play tetris on my shelves to somehow find space for the latest hoyas that have grown more than expected. And then I have an appointment to go sell my liver and kidney to keep the growlights running, pay for pest treatment and pay for the next hoyas that I'm "definitely not going to buy".
latifolia for the win. For me it's more of the shape and the texture of the leaves that does it, specifically.
And I love how we always find the best euphemisms for what is happening to us. I would elaborate, but I don't have time. I am off to play tetris on my shelves to somehow find space for the latest hoyas that have grown more than expected. And then I have an appointment to go sell my liver and kidney to keep the growlights running, pay for pest treatment and pay for the next hoyas that I'm "definitely not going to buy".
@debbiedo yep 👍 Hoyas are part of the reason I’m purging some plants. My interest and focus are Hoyas and orchids….and snake plants evidently because I have about 7 of them! You really summed it up well 👍 Hoyas are hardy, tough and cooperative in just about any spot 🤪. My callistophylla had mealies hiding everywhere 😳 and yet she’s sitting there all cute, with her giant leaves & in full bloom!! I’m sure I’ll hit a snag with some but they’re generally sooooo easygoing! Oh and when I say mealy bugs everywhere, they were in the clips securing her to her trellis! Like idk 🤷♀️ a half dozen jammed into the inside of the clip!😳. I just threw those all out. And banished the trellis to outdoors
@MusicalRedmint @debbiedo yes, I don’t even know what the flowers look like, my latifolia was purchased purely for the leaf 🤩 Actually…ALL my hoyas have been purchased for their leaves…so far! I’ve been primarily a foliage gal, except for my orchids 🌺 (when ARE they going to get an orchid emoji 😡), before I found hoyas. I’ll bet once my Bella blooms it’ll be lights out 🧨 💥though. Here I come, flowers! Picking up one extra shift a week means SO many more hoya possibilities 😱
Say Susann, on a totally unrelated note; how’s your liver n kidney guy? Do they do transatlantic referrals by chance? 🤔 No reason, just asking of course.
Say Susann, on a totally unrelated note; how’s your liver n kidney guy? Do they do transatlantic referrals by chance? 🤔 No reason, just asking of course.
@DreamMachine oh, thanks for asking. I actually get points for every new customer I leaf their way. Not sure if they will do transatlantic: there might be an issue with the freshness of the organs. Come to think about it, though, they are kind of sketchy, so I'm sure they'll accept. I'll just ask. We hoya gals have to stand together and support each other.
@FamedGymealily Oh you definitely do! 💡🪴💡🪴 These are the lights I’m using: Barrina T5 Grow Lights, Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V6YJKR6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@MariansOasis Your callistophylla is GORGEOUS! And eeeeeewwwwww 🤢 thinking about all those mealies! I love that she wasn’t even phased 😎🪭
@MusicalRedmint @DreamMachine I’m quite attached to my organs, any chance your guy is looking for some 🍑 fat?
@MariansOasis oh no, I somehow missed your first comment!! Sorry you got the mealies 😡😡 But wow, your callistophylla looks like nothing’s going to stop her. 😱
@MusicalRedmint 😂😂😂 Oh nice! They even have a punch card sorta thing? Do you get a free hoya every time you fill it out??
@DreamMachine sadly no. They are not directly connected to the plant trade. Purely money transactions. But after you fill your punch card with ten successful recommendations, you get a bit more morphine. anesthetic and pain meds are expensive. Apparently, black market organ operations to finance the hoya habit aren't as glamorous as I imagined. 🤷♀️
@MusicalRedmint my Bella is doing just fine, no open flowers yet, but the other peduncles are getting bigger.
Unnnnnfortunately, like a lot of us on Greg right now, I have found teeny tiny pests on my crassipetiolata. Some kind of mite, unsure of what kind yet. I was able to see them with the naked eye, but they just looked like a minuscule speck of dust.
Problem is, this hoya lived on one side of the room for a while, then a month or two ago I moved him to smack in the middle of a bunch of plants on the OTHER side of the room…yeah, fun times! Tomorrow should be a barrel of laughs, just you wait.
Unnnnnfortunately, like a lot of us on Greg right now, I have found teeny tiny pests on my crassipetiolata. Some kind of mite, unsure of what kind yet. I was able to see them with the naked eye, but they just looked like a minuscule speck of dust.
Problem is, this hoya lived on one side of the room for a while, then a month or two ago I moved him to smack in the middle of a bunch of plants on the OTHER side of the room…yeah, fun times! Tomorrow should be a barrel of laughs, just you wait.
@MusicalRedmint looking like broadmites are the winner of this particularly alarming circus 🎪 🤷♀️ . Unless there are other practically microscopic mites that carry females around with them. Well… 💩
Oh no. Not you as well.
If they aren't (true) spider mites (with webbing), which I doubt at that size, best guess is broad or flat. You did say, after all, that you had already spotted a gnarly stem/node, didn't you? And of course, you had moved the plants with perfect timing. As did I. Maybe those mites have evolved to have mind control powers?
In any case, if it helps, I'm getting more and more enamored with my swirskiis. So if it's truly broad or flatmites, you don't mind nice creepy crawlers for a change, have relatively decent humidity (60 upwards is the sweet spot), and can get your hands on them: i can already highly recommend them. especially if those specks of dust appear red (I.e. are probably flatmites). The swirskii do appear to be highly effective against them. And are fun to watch .... if you are a bit weird.
If they aren't (true) spider mites (with webbing), which I doubt at that size, best guess is broad or flat. You did say, after all, that you had already spotted a gnarly stem/node, didn't you? And of course, you had moved the plants with perfect timing. As did I. Maybe those mites have evolved to have mind control powers?
In any case, if it helps, I'm getting more and more enamored with my swirskiis. So if it's truly broad or flatmites, you don't mind nice creepy crawlers for a change, have relatively decent humidity (60 upwards is the sweet spot), and can get your hands on them: i can already highly recommend them. especially if those specks of dust appear red (I.e. are probably flatmites). The swirskii do appear to be highly effective against them. And are fun to watch .... if you are a bit weird.
@DreamMachine Shoot Nadia, I’m sorry to hear about the mites 😒 I have no doubt you’ll get them gone, but still no fun.
@MusicalRedmint @debbiedo thank you both 😣 No webbing, from the naked eye they appear white, under magnification, slightly translucent pale yellow/brown. 🤒😮💨🤮(My pic also makes them look more white) I will have to look into swirskii mites!!
@DreamMachine So gross and so cool at the same time 😂 Remind me what cool microscope camera you’re using!?
@DreamMachine
Sorry, I only just now so the mite comment. Are they greenish/beige/ translucent? I don't know how the swirskii would measure up against them (though my guess would be still great, I'd think), but i can talk up the cucumeris with an absolute guarantee, if those are indeed broadmites and if you don't have low humidity. I'm fact, broadmite were the reason for my cucumeris obsession. Two years back, I had already tried every suggested cure in the book (that didn't obviously harm orchid or hoya leaves and aren't systemics). And I had failed over and over again some treatments (like e.g. very light oil treatments) didn't even faze them but killed my plants anyway. And they were everywhere. During summertime their population can explode, especially in high humidity. Due to additional problems turbocharged by them, I had lost tens of orchids in the span of a few weeks. I was short of giving up entirely when a lovely hoya Gregger on here suggested predatory mites.
And voilà: the problem was almost completely gone in days.
Of you are unsure, how to treat, one of the things I'd recommend while you decide, if it's feasible would to immediately try lowering the humidity and temperature, if you have the option. At least until you decide how to treat. Lower temps can vastly raise their reproduction time and buy you time. And lower humidity could technically even kill them. Problem is (which I had heard nobody talking about online at that time, in spite of extensive research): they can just disappear into the substrate to endure until the humidity comes up again. Completely destroyed one catts root system at that time because they went underground and just started munching on those. Hardy little beasts.) But even if it doesn't kill many of them and just sends them underground, they aren't as effective there and your leaves will be safer, I guess. They also move slower. (Believe me, I've obsessively watched them like your neighborhood creep during day and night, while I was guessing which plant would die next)
As for treatment: If sulfur is an option, of course, I've heard some accounts that it works great on flat and broadmites, especially on hoyas.. I've also heard a bit mixed amounts as well, though.
So again: if humidity is high and you don't mind small crawlers: the amblyseius (or rather neoseiulus) cucumeris were absolutely marvelous. Best decision I ever made and I could kick myself that I tried them out as late as I did. I could have saved at least 20 plants and huge amounts of money, time, effort, and sleepless nights
Sorry, I only just now so the mite comment. Are they greenish/beige/ translucent? I don't know how the swirskii would measure up against them (though my guess would be still great, I'd think), but i can talk up the cucumeris with an absolute guarantee, if those are indeed broadmites and if you don't have low humidity. I'm fact, broadmite were the reason for my cucumeris obsession. Two years back, I had already tried every suggested cure in the book (that didn't obviously harm orchid or hoya leaves and aren't systemics). And I had failed over and over again some treatments (like e.g. very light oil treatments) didn't even faze them but killed my plants anyway. And they were everywhere. During summertime their population can explode, especially in high humidity. Due to additional problems turbocharged by them, I had lost tens of orchids in the span of a few weeks. I was short of giving up entirely when a lovely hoya Gregger on here suggested predatory mites.
And voilà: the problem was almost completely gone in days.
Of you are unsure, how to treat, one of the things I'd recommend while you decide, if it's feasible would to immediately try lowering the humidity and temperature, if you have the option. At least until you decide how to treat. Lower temps can vastly raise their reproduction time and buy you time. And lower humidity could technically even kill them. Problem is (which I had heard nobody talking about online at that time, in spite of extensive research): they can just disappear into the substrate to endure until the humidity comes up again. Completely destroyed one catts root system at that time because they went underground and just started munching on those. Hardy little beasts.) But even if it doesn't kill many of them and just sends them underground, they aren't as effective there and your leaves will be safer, I guess. They also move slower. (Believe me, I've obsessively watched them like your neighborhood creep during day and night, while I was guessing which plant would die next)
As for treatment: If sulfur is an option, of course, I've heard some accounts that it works great on flat and broadmites, especially on hoyas.. I've also heard a bit mixed amounts as well, though.
So again: if humidity is high and you don't mind small crawlers: the amblyseius (or rather neoseiulus) cucumeris were absolutely marvelous. Best decision I ever made and I could kick myself that I tried them out as late as I did. I could have saved at least 20 plants and huge amounts of money, time, effort, and sleepless nights
@DreamMachine yep, as far as I can tell, that's them. Lovely.
The swirskii are a neat species, generalist against thrips, mites without webbing, whitefly. I am a bit hesitant because the swirskii isn't clearly recommended for broadmites, but that doesn't necessarily have to mean a lot. If you find a good supplier they will be happy to point you towards the best predator. Like I said, huge success against broadmites with the cucumeris. If humidity around the plants is lower than 60%, maybe mention it as a concern to the seller. And maybe ask as well what works best with your temperature range. I've read a lot of complaints "that they don't work" which could be simply explained with lower humidity. Like the pests, the amblyseius mites also might die off in too low of a humidity. Or go nearer to the soil and not hunt on the upper leaves. Especially eggs might die off, if humidity drops. If the temperature isn't right, your beneficials might reproduce at a lower rate than the prey, which wouldn't be great either (bought some californicus and cucumeris mites for friends against thrips in a cooler dryer greenhouse and it wasn't great).
But other than that? Look into it. 10/10
Even if conditions aren't quite optimal, they will work if you follow the instructions to reapply them after a certain time.
The swirskii are a neat species, generalist against thrips, mites without webbing, whitefly. I am a bit hesitant because the swirskii isn't clearly recommended for broadmites, but that doesn't necessarily have to mean a lot. If you find a good supplier they will be happy to point you towards the best predator. Like I said, huge success against broadmites with the cucumeris. If humidity around the plants is lower than 60%, maybe mention it as a concern to the seller. And maybe ask as well what works best with your temperature range. I've read a lot of complaints "that they don't work" which could be simply explained with lower humidity. Like the pests, the amblyseius mites also might die off in too low of a humidity. Or go nearer to the soil and not hunt on the upper leaves. Especially eggs might die off, if humidity drops. If the temperature isn't right, your beneficials might reproduce at a lower rate than the prey, which wouldn't be great either (bought some californicus and cucumeris mites for friends against thrips in a cooler dryer greenhouse and it wasn't great).
But other than that? Look into it. 10/10
Even if conditions aren't quite optimal, they will work if you follow the instructions to reapply them after a certain time.
@MusicalRedmint not green at all, pale pale yellowish or, yes, I suppose beige is the appropriate term here 😅. I cannot lower my humidity (only natural), but I also do not mind predatory mites, and that would be cathartic to watch 👀 🧘♀️ I shall look into my predatory options nearby!!
@DreamMachine might I recommend the good old fashioned German practice of "Stoßlüften"? "Cross airing our your rooms"? We are kind of famous for it. And it will lower humidity like a charm ( as long as your windows are able to be opened, that is 😅) if done regularly.
@MusicalRedmint yassss!! I will 😂 🙌 Cue next obsession.
As for humidity though, we have our windows open 100% of the time 😅. We are just having a very wet June so far. It’s 82% relative humidity outside, and 65% inside. But come July and August it may drop. Those are usually our driest months!
As for humidity though, we have our windows open 100% of the time 😅. We are just having a very wet June so far. It’s 82% relative humidity outside, and 65% inside. But come July and August it may drop. Those are usually our driest months!
Open 100% of the time does something very different from just opening them for a short cross breeze in regular intervalls. For temperature and air exchange. But at those values outside, im not sure it will help. Especially if it's cooler inside than outside. Absolute humidity difference even higher then. But as advice for cooler days it still stands. Works wonders.
@DreamMachine . Ah. Also: here, crazy ND mite sis: https://youtu.be/syXq5D-dhbI?is=ie1HvZYbZsXb2Mmj
Just in case you want to take a look beforehand. She goes into me detail than is needed, but otherwise is great. No need for petridishes. Any old container with a lid will do.
Just in case you want to take a look beforehand. She goes into me detail than is needed, but otherwise is great. No need for petridishes. Any old container with a lid will do.
@MusicalRedmint oh YES, 😂😂, just the video I needed right now! 🙏
And I have found the cucumeris at a local beneficial insect supplier for a much better price than I was expecting! 😮💨 I’ll be talking with them of course, to figure out if that’s the best one for my conditions and how many I will need but they’re only around $1 per sachet. And shipping price extremely reasonable!
Oh I am SO relieved!! 😅
And I have found the cucumeris at a local beneficial insect supplier for a much better price than I was expecting! 😮💨 I’ll be talking with them of course, to figure out if that’s the best one for my conditions and how many I will need but they’re only around $1 per sachet. And shipping price extremely reasonable!
Oh I am SO relieved!! 😅
@MusicalRedmint I also forgot to add the twist of the knife earlier: I got a small clip on fan that has been excellent at making sure I had more airflow ALL over my plant room 🥴
@DreamMachine I didn't get my hands on pine pollen myself. (Again, no Amazon does make life harder at times). But I've looked around and found a pollen mix from the beekeeper/honey stand on my regular farmers market (I swear, sometimes I wonder what my life must sound to you with sentences like these). And at least around here, you can find several types of pollen in certain extremely environmentally or health conscious grocery stores. Though I'm not sure what your equivalent stores would be, I'm certain the way the healthfluencer bubble has taken over everything, you will easily find pollen somewhere marketed as a healthfood/ supplement.
I've read some scientific papers that mentioned (regarding the swirskii at least) that not all pollen is created equal (in terms of their best development), but I figured it might still help more than it will hurt. Especially since it isn't their main food source for now. And first results seem to confirm this. Have fun tinkering
I've read some scientific papers that mentioned (regarding the swirskii at least) that not all pollen is created equal (in terms of their best development), but I figured it might still help more than it will hurt. Especially since it isn't their main food source for now. And first results seem to confirm this. Have fun tinkering
And oh, shoot. Maybe I should have led with that. I'm so used to them that the price didn't even register as a possible concern. They are generally cheaper than many other treatment over time. That's why I was so angry back then that I had dumped so many resources into useless and harmful treatment before.
I really could have told you that they probably aren't expensive , even if prices in the US might be a bit higher.
I really could have told you that they probably aren't expensive , even if prices in the US might be a bit higher.
@DreamMachine Well, at least the fan might work for some of the predators as well, once they are there? 🤞😬
@MusicalRedmint oh girl, you sound like you’re living a parallel life to my own 😅 I could check the couple honey stands at my farmers market. OR even better, I will have to ask the Pollen Man 🙄😂
And I kid you not, he’s this kooky character that walks in my work regularly, I see him maybe every couple weeks, and he carries a jar of pollen. You hold your hand out to him and he dumps out a tablespoon or two (it’s somewhat pelletized though, not powder). It doesn’t matter if you want it or not.
The first time I saw him and said no, (because he was silent, I had no idea what he was trying to give me) he gave me this quizzical expression and then held out the jar again, and into my hand it went. I haven’t heard him ever speak more than a word or two. My coworkers were quick to let me know, ‘just take the pollen.’ I’ve always just eaten it, but my goodness, the mites I could culture with it! For free! 🤣🤣
And I kid you not, he’s this kooky character that walks in my work regularly, I see him maybe every couple weeks, and he carries a jar of pollen. You hold your hand out to him and he dumps out a tablespoon or two (it’s somewhat pelletized though, not powder). It doesn’t matter if you want it or not.
The first time I saw him and said no, (because he was silent, I had no idea what he was trying to give me) he gave me this quizzical expression and then held out the jar again, and into my hand it went. I haven’t heard him ever speak more than a word or two. My coworkers were quick to let me know, ‘just take the pollen.’ I’ve always just eaten it, but my goodness, the mites I could culture with it! For free! 🤣🤣
@DreamMachine 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that sounds way more hippie than mine. Which I think was my point. My really is less fairy honeydew creature getting nectar fresh from the source than I feel it often sounds like.
That being said, *I* don't have a Pollen Man in my vicinity. He sounds marvelous.
Maybe I could apply somewhere? Or just be the Pollen Lady. It doesn't sound like a ,
Nine-to-Five with a strict hierachical structure and a benefits package. And I already have some starter pollen.
That being said, *I* don't have a Pollen Man in my vicinity. He sounds marvelous.
Maybe I could apply somewhere? Or just be the Pollen Lady. It doesn't sound like a ,
Nine-to-Five with a strict hierachical structure and a benefits package. And I already have some starter pollen.