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Posted 2Y ago by @SaltySāmoan

Wait so can I use neem oil or not??

I have some spider mites on my pothos plants, Alocasia, Chinese evergreen, and possibly my Calathea. I have researched and also people told me to use neem oil but now I’m seeing people say on here that it burned their plants. What do I do? I NEED these spider mites gone and I’ve already waited weeks to treat them due to business at work and just straight up depression and lack of energy. #help #helpneeded #PlantsMakePeopleHappy #PlantAddict I just want #HappyPlants 😩
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I do use neem oil - I’ve bought Natria before because it’s ready to use. The burning is usually if you leave the sprayed plants under a grow light. So let them just rest with the neem oil for a day so they don’t get burned with the oil plus a bright light or direct sun. Good luck! 🌱☀️❤️
I’d use a miticide personally 💚 they target mites and kill them quickly.
@SaltySāmoan Neem oil is an effective and natural remedy for treating houseplant pests. To use it properly, dilute neem oil according to the instructions on the product label, usually mixing it with water. Test the solution on a small part of the plant before applying it entirely, as some plants may be sensitive. Apply the diluted neem oil evenly on affected areas, ensuring coverage of both the top and underside of leaves where pests often reside. Reapply as needed, typically every 7-14 days, depending on the severity of the infestation. Avoid treating plants under direct sunlight or extreme temperatures, as this could cause leaf burn. It's also best to apply neem oil in the early morning or late afternoon to prevent rapid evaporation and potential harm to the plant.

Neem oil is a natural and effective option for controlling houseplant pests due to its insecticidal properties. It works as a repellant, growth disruptor, and suffocant for pests.

Here's a step-by-step guide for using cold-pressed neem oil as a soil drench:
Materials Needed:
* Cold-pressed neem oil
* Water
* Measuring spoon
* Stirring utensil
* Watering can or spray bottle (for application)
* Optional: Castile soap (to enhance the solution's effectiveness)
Instructions:
* Dilution Ratio: For a soil drench, dilute neem oil at a ratio of about 1-2 teaspoons per quart of water. This ratio can be adjusted based on the plant's sensitivity and the severity of the infestation.
* Prepare the Solution: Measure the required amount of neem oil and add it to the specified volume of warm water. Stir the solution thoroughly to ensure proper mixing. Optionally, adding a few drops of Castile soap can help the solution adhere to the soil better.
* Application: Ensure the soil is slightly moist before application. Slowly pour the neem oil solution directly onto the soil around the plant base, aiming to cover the entire root zone. You can use a watering can or a spray bottle for precise application.
* Repeat Applications: For best results, repeat the soil drench every 1-2 weeks, especially if dealing with persistent pest issues. Consistent application can fortify the plant's defenses against potential infestations.
* Monitor and Adjust: Observe the plant for any adverse reactions. If you notice any negative effects, reduce the neem oil concentration in the solution or discontinue using it as a drench.
* Preventative Use: Implement this soil drench as a part of routine maintenance even when plants aren't showing signs of infestation. This proactive approach helps establish a protective barrier, deterring pests and strengthening the plant's natural resistance.


Compared to chemical pesticides, neem oil is safer for humans, pets, and beneficial insects when used as directed.
However, I personally find it messy and cumbersome to deal with. Some alternatives exist for pest control:
* Insecticidal soaps: These are gentle on plants and effective against soft-bodied pests like aphids, spider mites, and whiteflies. They work by suffocating insects upon contact.
* Pyrethrins: Derived from chrysanthemum flowers, pyrethrins are natural insecticides effective against many pests. They have low persistence and break down rapidly in the environment.
* Diatomaceous earth: This powder damages the exoskeletons of insects, leading to dehydration and death. It's effective against crawling pests but requires reapplication after watering.

The most effective option often depends on the type of pest, the severity of the infestation, and personal preferences regarding natural versus chemical treatments. Neem oil stands out due to its versatility and safety for the environment and beneficial insects. However, for severe infestations or specific pests, consulting with a local garden center or extension service can provide tailored recommendations.
You totally can! Just dilute it like @TexanExpat mentioned.

Personally, I hate the smell (and worry about over doing it) so I use Natria which is an insecticidal soap (also mentioned by @TexanExpat). It's more mild and the smell doesn't bother me. I have to use it a lot in the winter because of the dry air, I have lots of spider mites.

I also make my own leaf cleaner/soap for regular cleanings when I don't see pests (I use water, Castile soap and peppermint extract).
@PlantMompy I make my own “plant spray” too using Castile soap and essential oils. I don’t know whether you saw a post I made some time ago to this effect. I was teasing @GaryPoopins for his fancy debutant plants (he does have gorgeous plants) and I was sharing my recipe in a tongue and cheek way. But I did do a lot of reaerch on the selection of oils and rhe quantities. I have it saved on my phone I can post it again if you’re interested. I use peppermint oil too but it was driving me crazy not knowing whether I was using enough or using too much so I researched it along with some other things that went into the recipe
@TexanExpat I saved that recipe when you posted it prior - what was the percentage in general to never exceed? 3%? 1%?
@GaryPoopins The only 3% I can recall had to do with peroxide. I think it was 18 drops of essential oil per gallon. Is that what you mean? I need to order some of those ingredients to make my next batch I bought one of those gallon size pump, sprayers that you used to go around the garden to put pesticides on to put the plants brand, it’s rather nice to have it and that sort of pump because if you have to really spray dirt or pest . something off to plant it’s helpful
I just buy the organic ready made Neem oil spray online from We The Wild. I do a test on one leaf one evening. If no allergy, then I spray the whole plant (stem and both sides of the leaves) the next evening. I repeat the spraying every 7 days till the bugs are gone. For prevention I spray every fortnight.

SIMPLE NATURAL ORGANIC AND EFFECTIVE.
I’ve not had any trouble with the ready-to-spray neem oil. I’ve also had good luck with Dead AF and Bonide systemic granules. It’s a pain, but you can do it!
@TexanExpat I’m interested in the recipe please! I just think it’s fun to make my own and I would love to try whenever you have time. Thanks! 🌱☀️❤️
@RealSimpleMama sure thing. Lmk how it works for you and if you have any suggestions for tinkering with it. Amazon has a bundle of essential oils that contains all the ones you need to I think less than $20

Tonique Revitalisant pour les Plantes Élégantes

1 gallon. Store at room temperature.

This recipe combines the cleaning power of Castile soap with the stabilizing properties of witch hazel and the moisture retention benefits of vegetable glycerin. The essential oils contribute to the overall effectiveness of the spray in protecting your aroids and enhancing their well-being.

Ingredients:
* 1 gallon (128 oz) of distilled Water
* 2 tablespoons of Castile Soap
* Function: Castile soap serves as a natural cleaning agent, helping to remove dust and grime from aroid leaves. It also aids in emulsifying the essential oils.
* 2 tablespoons of Witch Hazel
* Function: Witch hazel acts as a stabilizing agent, ensuring that the essential oils are evenly dispersed in the spray. It aids in the uniform application of the essential oils.
* 2 tablespoons of Vegetable Glycerin
* Function: Vegetable glycerin serves as a humectant, helping to retain moisture on aroid leaves. It provides an additional source of hydration, especially in dry conditions.
* 10-15 drops of Essential Oil Blend
* Function: The essential oil blend provides various benefits, including pest deterrence, pathogen protection, and a pleasant aroma. The specific function of each essential oil was discussed earlier in the conversation.
Instructions:
* In a clean and empty 1-gallon container, add the water.
* Carefully add the Castile soap, witch hazel, vegetable glycerin, and the essential oil blend (10-15 drops) to the water.
* Secure the container with a tight-fitting lid and shake well to ensure thorough mixing of all ingredients.

Essential Oil Blend
Combine into one oz glass vial

* Tea Tree Oil (Melaleuca) - 295 drops
* Purpose: Tea tree oil, with its potent antimicrobial and antifungal properties, is essential for preventing and combatting plant diseases.
* Effectiveness: Well-documented for its efficacy, tea tree oil provides reliable protection against microbial threats.
* Peppermint Oil - 197 drops
* Purpose: Peppermint oil serves a dual role as a natural insect repellent and a contributor to the pleasant scent of the mix.
* Effectiveness: Proven effective at repelling various insects, it also enhances the sensory experience in the garden.
* Lemon Oil - 98 drops
* Purpose: Lemon oil's cleaning properties and mild antimicrobial benefits ensure plant cleanliness and pathogen resistance.
* Effectiveness: Recognized for its cleaning attributes, it also offers subtle protection against microbial threats.
* Eucalyptus Oil - 98 drops
* Purpose: Eucalyptus oil is a reliable insect repellent effective against a broad spectrum of pests, including ants, flies, and mosquitoes.
* Effectiveness: A well-established insect repellent with documented effectiveness against a variety of garden pests.
* Lavender Oil - 74 drops
* Purpose: Lavender oil enhances the overall environment with its calming fragrance and offers partial insect-repelling qualities.
* Effectiveness: Effective in deterring specific insects, it also provides a soothing atmosphere.
* Clove Oil - 49 drops
* Purpose: Clove oil serves both as an insect repellent and as an agent with antifungal properties.
* Effectiveness: Well-recognized for its insect-repelling and antifungal capabilities, it plays a valuable role in plant care.

For plants that do not have accumulated dust or grime: Upon mixing, the plant spray is ready for use. To apply, use a clean spray bottle and lightly mist the leaves of your aroids, ensuring good coverage. It can be used for general cleaning, hydration, and pest deterrence.

For plants that have accumulated dust or grime:
Spray: Lightly mist the leaves of your aroid plants with the plant spray, ensuring even coverage.
Wait: Allow the spray to sit on the leaves for a minute or two. This can help loosen and soften the dust and grime.
Wipe: Gently wipe the leaves with a clean, dry paper towel. Start from the base of the leaf and move toward the tip. Be gentle to avoid damaging the leaves.
Repeat as Needed: Depending on the level of dust and grime, you may need to repeat the process for each leaf.
This method can be an efficient way to clean your aroid plants, especially when dust accumulates regularly. Just ensure that the paper towel is clean and soft to avoid scratching or damaging the leaves. Additionally, always monitor your plants for any adverse reactions and discontinue the process if you notice any issues.
@debbiedo @SvelteKingfern the ready to use spray is always handy to keep on hand for spot treatments, but the real value of neem oil cannot be derived from foliar applications. Neem oil as a foliar spray is effective because it kills fungal spores and deterring pests. But so are less expesive household concoctions made of various essential oils like tea tree rosemary oil, baking soda, potassium bicarbonate, etc. the real value of neem oil is derived from the plant absorbing the neem oil through its roots from a soil drench. Through a soil drench, neem oil imbues the plant with potent compounds, fortifying its defenses against pests and diseases, arming it with the resilience to combat those MoFos
The most probable route of infection to my plants, because they're outdoors in the garden, would be by air. The only one event, on the older leaf of Peperomia, was through the air. I use the Neem Oil Spray mostly as prevention. For these reasons, and because I have only 4 plants (which makes the care easy), and because of the ease of application, I prefer the Neem Oil Spray.
For professional growers, and in different circumstances, the absorption of the Neem oil through the roots may be the better approach. I agree with you on that @TexanExpat . Thank you, and I appreciate the correctness of your comments.
@SvelteKingfern thank you and you are very welcome. I was recently reflecting on the fact that I often employ the caveat of “personally…[what I would do]”. As I thought about it, I realized that often the best course of action considers what I cal “administrative component.” We all have our system of way of caring, what sometimes can be as much as hundreds of plants. The ready to use sprays have their purposes and limitations. So do the concentrates. I used to buy copper based fungicides in concentrate so I could keep costs and clutter down. But the sprays don’t keep and it ends up being admisteatively burdensome to mix concentrates for mere spot issues. I’m glad to hear using the spray alone is effective; at times I have felt fatalistic in re to trying to ware a war against an invisible army of countless spores.
It is better not only to feel fatalistic, but to act fatalistic to these creeping invaders. They evolved to be very successful in attacking and consuming their prey. My approach, and probably yours, is, as it should be, "better safe than sorry". 👍 @TexanExpat
There is another approach to the problem, which could be beneficial to the cause. To eliminate spores in the soil I sterilize the soil, with high temperature, then I add beneficial bacteria to the soil, before planting my plants.
I thought this might be of use to your plants. @TexanExpat