What Are These Spots On The Leaves?
What are these yellowish spots on the leaves of this #Echeveria ? Do I need to do anything about it? #HappyPlants #PlantsMakePeopleHappy #PlantAddict #SucculentSquad #SucculentLove #Succulents #SuccerForSucculents #help #GregGang #PLANTMAFIA
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@ImmenseJade50 I just got it like a week ago, and I watered it last Saturday because the substrate itβs in was completely dry. I accidentally got water on some of the leaves. Could that be why it has those yellow spots?
Eeeek, from the pictures it almost looks like water drops that stared to create powdery mildew.. just as a precaution, immediately quarantine it till you can confirm that fuzz doesnβt get bigger.. if it is powdery mildew youβll want to act fast cause that crap SPREADS. Currently battling it on a couple dozen succulents π
@OrangeGrass they do look transparent(ish), thatβs why I said looks like water spots that turned to PM or, that could be the PM sucking the nutrients out of the leaf.. not being in person itβs hard to tell but Iβm going to do my best to best to direct you..
@OrangeGrass based off the pictures, Iβm 87% sure thatβs powdery mildew, Iβm sorry my friend. Is that the only one with those fuzzy spots? Thereβs a couple things you can do but itβs your preference in it being natural/fast working. I personally have been using Arber bio fungicide, & a diluted buttermilk solution because I donβt like/want to use harsh chemicals, the catch is patience. You can use neem oil , copper fungicide or sulfur but those can either build up in the soil, clog pores or burn leaves. The milk solution you need the sunlight so it can activate the microbes to kill the fungus. Sodium bicarbonate(baking sodas close relative but stronger)can kill on contact but youβll have to order that online. The Arber I think you can find at Home Depot/walmart but itβll take a couple weeks for everything to be most effective.. if you have any questions let me know !
@Artistic_Stoner Ironically, I just ordered a copper fungicide because apparently my hibiscus has leaf spot⦠Do I just spray it on the Echeveria? Do I need to remove the affected leaves?
@OrangeGrass yes that is the Arber one I use! It colonizes the roots & has a bacteria that combats things like root rot(a fungus) & others including PM. I personally was just introduced to it but Iβm going to use it at least once every couple of waterings as a preventative since mine all live outside. I donβt know anything about copper spray so I canβt tell you how it works.. but just go by the directions, a person on here updated me that they almost have eradicated their PM problem with copper & they use grow lights! Just make sure thatβs the only plant & keep an eye on it.. the spores spread by just the hint of wind so be careful
@OrangeGrass oh, itβs reccomended to remove the leaves with it on it, I left a couple of mine but it did leave ugly scars when it was killed.. I deleafed one cause it was pretty bad but itβs growing like 3dozen babies π
@Artistic_Stoner Okay! Thank you. Do I remove the affected leaves? Or does the fungicide take care of it?
@OrangeGrass the scars are ugly but.. this is why I think itβs pm & those are what it looks like after youβve killed the spores
@Artistic_Stoner Okay, will do. Iβm such a noob getting water on the leaves when I was bottom wateringβ¦ I mindlessly lifted another in the the same bath this was in and it got water on it π i tried to wipe the water, but clearly it did not work.
@OrangeGrass like I said I think itβs your preference, if itβs going to look terrible removing so many leaves then you donβt have to. As long as you take action itβll just leave scars like mine βΊοΈ
@Artistic_Stoner Oh yeah, that definitely looks like whatβs on mine. I was wondering if I needed to remove the leaves in case they spread more or live on in the affected areas? Do I water and spray with the fungicide? Or just one or the other?
@OrangeGrass it happens !! I have to manually remove 65+ succulents if I have to water cause they will drip on eachother π
@OrangeGrass yes you can remove them, all the affected plants need to be moved far from the other healthy ones. As a precaution Iβd treat the ones that donβt look like they have it just in case. I was treating a couple but that turned into 2/3 so I treat them all every 5 days till I donβt see anymore spots showing up. Youβre really going to have to watch them, it will spread quick & Iβve been dealing with this for almost 2 months. Itβs almost gone but I had to milk spray today cause I saw some trying to form.
@OrangeGrass with that Arber fungicide yes youβll want to use that as a soil drench, you can also at the same time spray it as a foliage spray for a double whammy & especially if it is a mild infestation!
@OrangeGrass if you look up βbacillus amyloliquefaciensβ, that is the main active ingredient to the Arber fungicide, if you like research, itβs so interesting how the stuff works. It works its best in soil application but can also be used for a spray. Really hope Iβm explaining things good for you π
Didn't read through all the comments, but can confirm it's definitely powdery mildew, which is a pain to get rid of. Definitely quarantine this plant, ideally in a separate room, because it WILL spread like wildfire to any other plants nearby. Once it progresses to this point, you're only option for treating it and saving the plant is using either copper fungicide spray, or sulfur powder made into a paste. I've had best results with sulfur powder. It's also a good idea to remove any leaves that already have spots on them. This could mean you're left with a much smaller plant, but drastic measures are often necessary to eradicate powdery mildew outbreaks.
Echeveria are especially prone to powdery mildew, compared to most other succulents. Cold + damp = prime conditions for powdery mildew to flourish. Poor air flow is also a major factor. Make sure not to crowd plants too close together or put them right up against the glass pane of a window. Keep a fan going to improve air circulation, even in the winter (when echeveria are most susceptible to powdery mildew). A good preventative treatment is spraying with a solution of 1 teaspoon baking soda dissolved in a quart of water. Good luck! PM is a b*tch and I've lost multiple plants to it before, but if you stay diligent and treat it quickly you have a better chance of saving this and other plants π
Echeveria are especially prone to powdery mildew, compared to most other succulents. Cold + damp = prime conditions for powdery mildew to flourish. Poor air flow is also a major factor. Make sure not to crowd plants too close together or put them right up against the glass pane of a window. Keep a fan going to improve air circulation, even in the winter (when echeveria are most susceptible to powdery mildew). A good preventative treatment is spraying with a solution of 1 teaspoon baking soda dissolved in a quart of water. Good luck! PM is a b*tch and I've lost multiple plants to it before, but if you stay diligent and treat it quickly you have a better chance of saving this and other plants π
@Artistic_Stoner I just dealt with a major powdery mildew outbreak as well! What a nightmare, started with a Kalanchoe flapjacks then proceeded to wipe out a bunch of mostly echeverias, also a few graptoveria and graptopetalum. Basically anything winter dormant with fleshy leaves π
@stephonicle Hi Steph, I feel disheartened after hearing about how difficult it is to treat and get rid of π£ Would I be a bad person if I return it? I do have it quarantined in a separate room, but it was with some of the other echeverias before. What is sulfur powder made into a paste? How do I use the sulfur fungicide? I do have sulfur fungicide. I also have baking soda. Also, how long do I have to treat? How often? Do I treat the soil as well? Do I treat the adjacent succulents as well? I know I havenβt tried anything yet, but I really donβt have it in me to do a treatment thatβs going to take weeks and repeat applications multiple times a weekβ¦ If this is a lengthy process, I feel like I should return all of them. And, my fungicide doesnβt get here till Monday. It was not available at Home Depot or Walmart. Would spraying baking soda mixture not make them rot? Iβve heard that water makes the leaves rot?
@stephonicle So sorry to hear about your powdery mildew devastation π Were you successful in treating any or were all of them too far gone?
@Artistic_Stoner Someone just said that mine isnβt mild, and that itβs really difficult to treat. I donβt know what to do. The stores donβt have any fungicide. So, I had to order online, and they wonβt be here till Monday. I feel like refining them all π£
@stephonicle I was actually going to tag you in this, our friend we tried to help a couple weeks ago said the copper was working good besides loosing some leaves but I was curious how you were coming along too! I havenβt lost any completely except a couple leaves & some scarring, seems I MIGHT have it under control.. now that the weather is warmer & we have humidity 90+ everyday so Iβm praying Iβm keeping up π so far Iβve been using the Arber fungicide & diluted milk solution every 5 days swapping between the two, & then using potassium bicarbonate as a spot treatment. At least a third of us on this app are going to have to go plant shopping for therapy after this PM crap ποΏΌ
@OrangeGrass it is very difficult to treat unfortunately, & patience is the biggest struggle for all us plant parents.. Iβm shocked not one local store has a fungicide near you! If youβd like to give something natural a go, you can get buttermilk & do a diluted spray on it, plus you have grow lights so you wonβt have to worry about the sun part.
@Artistic_Stoner wait, how do you use baking soda to spot treat? Do you dust it on top? How do I use milk as well because I have milk too? And yup, Iβm going to need plant therapy π I also have a sulfur fungicide. Itβs the copper and arbor fungicide that I have to wait for till Monday to next Friday.
@Artistic_Stoner Oh right, so when I use these fungicides on them, do I not put them in direct sunlight afterwards? Yeah, my local shops are slacking because MD just freaks out whenever we get even the slightest bit of snow or iceβ¦ π everyone just stops functioning, and Iβm not exaggerating. Itβs such a pain. Weβve had two occasions of moderate snow and yesterday some ice. So, we are in somewhat of a weird emergency-ish situation. Anyway, thatβs why mail is being delayed along with supplies not being restocked
@Artistic_Stoner @stephonicle I checked my other echeverias and a snake plant that was near the one with powdery mildew, and so far I have not seen any signs of powdery mildew on them. Should I till spray them with sulfur fungicide? Itβs the only thing I have other than baking soda atm.
@ImmenseJade50 I do have an Ace Hardware. Itβs a little ways out, but I can check thereβthanks. It hadnβt spread to anything because I donβt see anything weird other than farina on the leaves. But if it has, Iβll return them too. I got them at a local store. They take returns with no questions asked.
I just realized that it already had powdery mildew when I brought it homeβ¦ I just didnβt know how to recognize it.. hereβs a pic of it the day I got it π€¦ββοΈ Those weird white spots have just gotten worse and I thought it was because I drop water on itβ¦ it may have made it worse, idk @Artistic_Stoner @stephonicle @ImmenseJade50
@OrangeGrass I donβt have any experience in the sulfur or copper, but maybe @stephonicle does?! Also I mix water & a dash of dish soap with the potassium bicarbonate(itβs not baking soda specifically) but you can use baking soda with some success too! For the buttermilk(was told buttermilk is better cause it isnβt as filtered) I did a 1(milk):9(water) ratio of milk to water, sprayed them & let them get some sun. As for treating them all if they have been in close proximity with each other, I would do it as a precaution.. you never know if some snuck in there. You didnβt make anything worse though, with powdery mildew itβs just going to do its thing unless killed π
sorry about your towns situation, hope that gets better for you all, stay safe & warm!
@Artistic_Stoner I returned it π I just canβt. I returned the ones that were next to it too. But, thank you so much for sharing how to deal with powdery mildew! Much appreciated β₯οΈ
@Artistic_Stoner @OrangeGrass sorry I meant to respond sooner! π€ͺ As far as the sulfur treatment goes, you have to get the powder (also called "dust"). Then you can either shake it onto the plant using a duster (I made my own with an old stocking pulled taut over a cardboard tube) or make a paste by adding a few drops of water and apply it with a paintbrush. I prefer the second method because it gives you more control over where it's applied and you can paint it on the undersides of leaves without it dripping off. From what I've read, sulfur in spray form is not nearly as effective because it's not concentrated enough. I've also read that potassium bicarbonate is a good preventative treatment, but ineffective against major outbreaks.
@stephonicle Got it! The paste does sound very convenientβI didnβt even think about how to apply powder/dust on to the underside of the leaves
@OrangeGrass itβs no problem at all, hey youβll be able to start over in a month or two βΊοΈ itβs nothing you did, probably already had it but theyβll have plenty more to adopt soon !
@Artistic_Stoner Yeah, I checked the pics from the day I got itβit came with it. I didnβt even know wha to check for or how to recognize it :/
@OrangeGrass pshhh, I didnβt know what the heck it was/looked like till I realized it is from a sick tree blowing leaves in my greenhouse! Itβs a lesson that will only make us better π€