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Posted 3M ago by @roxyvivien

Underwatered or overwatered Echeveria pulidonis potted in Gritty Mix?
I switched my #Echeveria to Bonsai Jack Succulent Gritty Mix from regular bagged cactus soil a few weeks ago and repotted her in a shallower but wider terricotta pot.. and I am still trying to get the hang of this Gritty Mix Watering! ๐Ÿ˜ฃ

Background info:
Two leaves wilted and dropped from the repot stress but she's now adjusted and growing bigger! ๐Ÿ™‚

BUT... I can't tell if she needs more or less frequent watering when the leaves go flat & slightly more puckered at the tips.

The flat leaves feel softer but not mushy and they aren't turning yellow.

I hear some people with Gritty Mix water their succulents every 2-3 days!

๐ŸŒฑ ๐Ÿ“ธ The main pic is form me watering her 4 days ago & I added her progress pics.

๐Ÿ’ฆ Currently She's being bottom watered every 6-7 days on average to get a good soak of the Gritty Mix.

I water when the soil *seems* dry (so hard to tell with this mix) and terricotta pot is 100% dry โ€” I find that is a better indicator! ๐Ÿ˜…

โ˜€ She gets lots of sun on her south facing windowsill. Probably 5 or 6 hours it's direct (but filtered from the window) from 12pm-5pm or so...

At night and in the morning I leave the window open for her to get fresh air and bright light until around noon then I close the window to make sure she doesn't get sunburned or heat stressed so she's in about 74-80 degree max temps all day and it about 55-60 degree humidity in the house.

Since I'm still getting the hang of this Bonsai Jack Succulent Soil, I'm hoping someone else who uses it can offer some advice! ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ โ™ฅ

I'd love to be able to tell by leaf appearance when she's ready for a drink! ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ’ฆ

Thank you! โ™ฅ #succulentsquad #echeveriapulidonis #succulentlove #greggang #greggers #plantsmakepeoplehappy #help #greggang @kscape @vvvelo @sarahsalith @Sassylimey @WickedValkyrie @KrunchyWrap @LadyStarStrings
3โ€ pot with drainage
Last watered 1 day ago
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@roxyvivien I use the bonsai jack and some of my succulents are 100%satisfies while other are deflating but if I constantly water they get rot because the mix stays wet. I asked alot of people and so far everyone says they mix it with something else. All I had on hand was some peat moss so I mixed just a little bit and now I wait to see if it helps. I'd rather have bonsai jack thank anything else but it Definitely needs a little something extra for some plants
Well, I use Bonsai Jack as well, but I also mixed it with Fat Plants potting mix 50/50 so there's more for the water to hold onto for a while. ๐Ÿ˜…
I've been watering my plants about every 5-10 days since the switch depending on the plant, and I don't seem to be having any issues so far. If anything, this mix has made it easier to keep the water where I want it to go and it keeps them from rotting out because the soil dries/drains quick enough.
My fear with just Bonsai Jack would be that the water wouldn't linger for long enough and I'd be watering constantly, so that's why I opted to mix it from the jump. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
How long do you leave her soaked in for? Iโ€™ve also got Bonsai Jack and had to leave my succs soak for 20-30 minutes compared to my usual 10-15 minutes with succulent mix ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

I love Bonsai Jack but for my outdoor succs, I have to submerge my plants so they get a good drink, or else the medium will dry. I also mixed mine with some perlite and coco bark so it lasts longer but also to keep just A LIL moisture ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ˜ฉ
I just use miracle grow succ soil so I'm not sure I can be much help on this but I've seen a lot of people complaining about how fast that bonsai jack stuff dries out... The other day @vvvelo said you need to fully submerge it for like a whole day or something like that...
@WickedValkyrie OMG A WHOLE DAY! ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ โ€” Who has time for that? Lol ๐Ÿ˜‚
It seems fine on the second photo. I stopped using bare bonsai Jack. It is too much gritty and does not hold any water. I canโ€™t water my plants every day. This is just crazy! I donโ€™t like to move plants from the shelf. It is not easy. I decided to switch back to miracle grow+extra perlite.
I mix up my own succulent mix of stuff I have on hand. 2 parts miracle grow moisture control soil, 1 post cactus mix, 1 part perlite and 1 part coco coir, thankfully my succs seem to be doing ok.
I do agree with Vladimir tho that it really does look fine in the pics (:
Also I butt chug mine for about 15 minutes
@kscape good question! I have done the bottom chug soak for about 30 mins... I've also tried the mixed method of plugging the drain hole with my finger and top watering until I see the water and then placing it a container with water about 1/3 a way up the pot and soaking it for 5 mins - I got that tip from the Succulents and Sunshine YouTube channel with Cassidy Tuttle who is a big fan of Bonsai Jack.
I'm leading towards the mixed method โ€”b/c *pure*bottom watering doesn't seem to get to the top at any reasonable rate... but honestly I'm not sure if one worked better than the other ๐Ÿ˜•
@LadyStarStrings how stressed /mad at me do think she'll get if I *gently*remove her from the pot right now and sneak some coco coir into her mix? ๐Ÿ˜… I'd try not to disrupt/break any roots of course.
@WickedValkyrie I guess I'm just a perfectionist ๐Ÿ˜ณ lol

She was perfectly perky with all tilted up leaves 2 days ago! ๐Ÿ˜“
@roxyvivien Well, she might be a lil angy for a bit, but give her time to readjust and recover, and I'm sure she'd be alright after a lil while - a little move around to fix her soil shouldn't be too much on her. ๐Ÿ˜…
Also, maybe itโ€™s because of where Iโ€™m at but personally I donโ€™t recommend MiracleGro for succs, Iโ€™d much rather use any other succulent soil because Iโ€™ve had nothing but gnat problems with that soil for years and years ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ @roxyvivien @WickedValkyrie even online orders have had bag infested with gnats ๐Ÿซฃ
@kscape I do have a wicked gnat problem right now... They don't seem to be hurting my plants but they sure are fucking annoying! Lmao
@kscape! Ugggg I hate gnats! I've never used Miracle Grow. I used to use Hoffman's Cactus soil mixed with some pumice, but now I exclusively use cocoa coir and various gritty soil ammendments ... usually pumice and lava rock but if it's a big job I'll use some perlite as it's cheaper and lighter. ๐Ÿ˜Š
@KrunchyWrap thank you for this info โ™ฅ

I'm starting to think the same thing about Bonsai Jack ๐Ÿ˜“

I just tried a new mix for my recent purchased Aloe Crosby's Prolific plants called 'Superfly Bonsai succulent and Cactus' - I used 4:1 Superfly with coco coir.

I will report back! ๐Ÿ˜Š
@Sassylimey What is โ€œbutt chugโ€? My English is not so good.
@kscape by saying GNAT, what do you mean? I googled the name, and it just shows me some mosquito and fly.
@vvvelo your English is very good, butt chug is bottom watering ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Š
@vvvelo gnats are tiny flies that look similar to mosquitos. They mostly feed on the fungus in soil. (:
@WickedValkyrie Same. I ball up some Spanish moss to sit the roots on(not a lot) and top off with the MG succulent soil. All of mine are thriving. I use a cactus/succulent plant food in the watering can once/month and thatโ€™s it. I top water them weekly to every week and a half. I use the Miracle Gro succulent soil for my Queenโ€™s Tears bromeliads with excellent results! Iโ€™ve never had so many pups from them the entire 20 yrs Iโ€™ve had them. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I thinned them out 2 yrs ago giving away the excess. This year Iโ€™ve thinned them out and selling them and already theyโ€™re pushing out more pups! Never thought succulent soil would make a bromeliad that happy! ๐Ÿ˜‚
@KrunchyWrap @LadyStarStrings @kscape @WickedValkyrie @vvelo @sarahsalith @Sassylimey @shorti6770 - Thought y'all might like an update on my Elina, my Echeveria ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’— potted in 100% Bonsai Jack Gritty Mix โ€” I've FINALLY figured out the exact number of days between waterings she needs and get this...

It's EVERY THREE DAYS!!! ๐Ÿคฏ

I feel her leaves and when one of the bottom ones gets soft, I give her a good soak by filling water to the top and then placing her in a container with an inch or so of water for 5 mins so the mix actually soaks up the water... The next day after the waterjng all the leaves are firm to the rich again.

Not sure I would recommend this mix to someone who has a ton of plants! ๐Ÿ˜…

I've decided to not use pure Gritty Mix with any others โ€” with 80 + succulents who's go time for that? ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™ƒ
@roxyvivien that's awesome yoy figured it out! Mainly bc all my succulents are planted in it ๐Ÿ™„ lmao but hey I'm so glad you found the secret formula!
I've mixed peat moss and a little coco coir in mine and it's helped tremendously
@KrunchyWrap yeha I went the coco coir route mixed with Gritty Mix for the others I planted recently and they are doing better. I like the Superfly Bonsai Mix better BTW (I think I mentioned it to you in another post) it's got a smaller particle size so it holds water a bit better and roots and get around it more to get more anchored in the pot ๐Ÿ˜Š
Is it sold by the same people or is it a different company @roxyvivien
@KrunchyWrap it's a different company... Is this one โžก https://amzn.to/3B2s5PY

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