Spider mites These things move fast. Tented this whole p...
Spider mites
These things move fast. Tented this whole plant in just a day or two and spread to neighbors already #PestControl pestsAndPlants">#pestsAndPlants #spidermites #SadPlant #NeemOil
These things move fast. Tented this whole plant in just a day or two and spread to neighbors already #PestControl pestsAndPlants">#pestsAndPlants #spidermites #SadPlant #NeemOil
4β pot with drainage
Last watered 3 months ago
Yes they do! And systematics won't work they have built up immunities and it makes them breed faster.
Treat with neem oil undiluted.
1 capful or 1 tablespoon per 32 ounces water.
You can also add 1/2 teaspoon Castile soap to the mix as well. You probably should since there are a lot of them. The Castile helps the neem oil mix with the water so it doesn't separate.
Treat with neem oil undiluted.
1 capful or 1 tablespoon per 32 ounces water.
You can also add 1/2 teaspoon Castile soap to the mix as well. You probably should since there are a lot of them. The Castile helps the neem oil mix with the water so it doesn't separate.
Mist entire plant tops and bottoms of leaves, stems, all of it you want the treatment dripping off.
Treat any plants in that room, like you said they spread quickly.
Treat every 3 days for 3 weeks. Do not miss a treatment or you will have to start from scratch.
I normally say isolate affected plants, but it's likely too late and the others already have them.
Treat any plants in that room, like you said they spread quickly.
Treat every 3 days for 3 weeks. Do not miss a treatment or you will have to start from scratch.
I normally say isolate affected plants, but it's likely too late and the others already have them.
All good @SuperbRaspfern ! Thanks for confirming the neem oil. I sprayed them up good todayβ¦and ran out, so Iβll continue treating tomorrow. Iβm shocked at how fast they multiplied. Iβm in there every day and just noticed stippling on the poinsettia a day or two ago, but didnβt see any pests
@CordialWildyam Have you by chance used systematics like Bonide before? Because if you have that's why. It makes them breed and reproduce much faster.
@SuperbRaspfern no, no systematics. Some of my plants are edible and I want to be free to recycle soil. Systematics are the last resort for me
@CordialWildyam Gotcha, that's a good thing. They are quite sneaky. One spider mite has the potential to lay 20 eggs per day. So it doesn't take many to make a big impact quickly. I'm sorry. I know they suck.
Spider mites destroyed my pansies in no time! I had just gotten them to bloom for the the fifth time this season πππ I had to put them outside because Iβd run out of insecticidal soap and rubbing alcohol and I only have like, $3 until payday. RIP, Pansies πͺ¦ I hope you can get rid of your mites! Hate those little jerks. I always keep stuff on hand to kill them because they come for my plants so often. Especially anything with a thin, dainty leaf. Btw rubbing alcohol works amazingly if you run out of your preferred treatment again! Lol my mom just surprised me with three gallons of it today because I wouldnβt stop complaining about my pansies π€£ Godspeed! And @SuperbRaspfern good to know about the systemics! I was trying to figure out how to get some here in NY but if they donβt even work on spider mites, I wonβt bother! Those are the only pest I really have problems with on a regular basis. Thank you for the info! β₯οΈ
@AlertGoatsbeard You have thrips that's what those silver streaks are. They can appear lines up because they will often feed along the veins of the leaves.
Thrips are different and need to be treated longer because they burrow. This burrowing and laying of eggs in the plant tissues makes them difficult, hence the longer treatment.
Use can use the same treatment as above only your treatment will be for 6 weeks. Every 3 days. If you miss a treatment you must start the 6 week process again.
During the larvae and pupa stage they can be in the soil. So when you need to water, water with your treatment for the duration of treatment.
Make sure to isolate and inspect all plants in the room with her. Thrips can fly, jump, and walk. They really get around.
Thrips are different and need to be treated longer because they burrow. This burrowing and laying of eggs in the plant tissues makes them difficult, hence the longer treatment.
Use can use the same treatment as above only your treatment will be for 6 weeks. Every 3 days. If you miss a treatment you must start the 6 week process again.
During the larvae and pupa stage they can be in the soil. So when you need to water, water with your treatment for the duration of treatment.
Make sure to isolate and inspect all plants in the room with her. Thrips can fly, jump, and walk. They really get around.
@AlertGoatsbeard I marked up the thrip damage so you know what I'm looking at. The brown scab like lesions look like the leaf sustained damage and the plant healed over. Same with photo 2 with the hole. On the leaf with the thrip damage it looks like a new leaf that was perhaps slow to open. If they take too long to open they can often sustain damage.
@BabeVila Yep, spider mites and many colonies of thrips have developed immunities. So, I'm glad you now know they can make things worse!!! That would really stink to add them and have things get worse.
I do recommend neem oil for them only because it will last longer the insecticidal soap and alcohol. Insecticidal soap only works on direct contact once it dries the residual effect in over.
Same with alcohol that has no residual effect. It also only works on contact.
While neem oil will remain effective for 3 days to 2 weeks. So if you treat with neem every 3 days through treatment it will be a constant residual effect, and also affects their ability to reproduce.
It's up to you of course but it may help you to get rid of them for good.
I do recommend neem oil for them only because it will last longer the insecticidal soap and alcohol. Insecticidal soap only works on direct contact once it dries the residual effect in over.
Same with alcohol that has no residual effect. It also only works on contact.
While neem oil will remain effective for 3 days to 2 weeks. So if you treat with neem every 3 days through treatment it will be a constant residual effect, and also affects their ability to reproduce.
It's up to you of course but it may help you to get rid of them for good.
@SuperbRaspfern what are systematics?
@HumbleSaltcedar Great question! Systematics are pesticides that are absorbed into plant tissues. The roots, leaves and flowers. They are long lasting and will kill sap sucking insects and pollinators for 8+ weeks.
Many people on here use Bonide Granules (I do not).
It has imidacloprid. Many insects that have been exposed repeatedly have built up immunities against it. Plus it can stay in the soil for years. I avoid it because I don't like using anything toxic. And I don't want to kill off beneficial insects.
But many people do use it.
Many people on here use Bonide Granules (I do not).
It has imidacloprid. Many insects that have been exposed repeatedly have built up immunities against it. Plus it can stay in the soil for years. I avoid it because I don't like using anything toxic. And I don't want to kill off beneficial insects.
But many people do use it.
@SuperbRaspfern That is good to know and will make me reconsider! I just HATE the smell and the photosensitivity always throws me off, too, but only because Iβm not used to using it, I suppose. Are there any brands that donβt smell so terrible? I get migraines super easily π₯² I would love to have it stay there. I had thrips a few weeks ago which Iβm still treating for to make sure they stay gone, like you advised above! They killed ten or so of my plants and really did heavy damage to my alocasias! Hate them so much. It was my first time dealing with them. Found out they got in through a broken vent in the window ac, which has now been fixed (Iβm not Babe Vila for nothing! π) but Iβm definitely not assuming theyβre all gone. I found two yesterday on my Tigrina Superba and put it in the shower and sprayed with dish soap since I had nothing else. I know it wasnβt the best option but it did the trick for the moment. I will definitely get some neem on payday though, if it will help me eradicate them for good. Iβd rather have spider mites any dayβ¦ sorry for babbling, Iβm so tired.
@BabeVila haha, no worries. Iβm tickled that this has become the daily pest thread
@SuperbRaspfern I got this because I also donβt want to use anything toxic or kill off beneficial insects. I saw that it was for organic gardening so I thought it was safe. But now I see it has bonide written on it. Does that mean itβs not safe?
@HumbleSaltcedar That will definitely kill off beneficial insects. It's not as bad because it is a bio-insecticide. Meaning it is a natural substance and not synthetic.
Its main component is spinosad. Is made from chemicals produced by soil bacterium.
Be cautious if you use it. It does cause cytotoxic affects to human lungs. Meaning if you breath it in it is know to cause death of the cells within the lungs of you your family and pets. So if you use it please take precautions. Wear a face mask so you don't inhale it. And keep family and pets away. Never use on plants you intend to eat.
These are some of the effects it can cause on the lungs. They are interstitial pneumonitis, pulmonary fibrosis, or even more severe conditions like pulmonary edema and pneumothorax.
Bonide owns Captain Jacks. So everything listed under Captain Jacks will also say Bonide. They do have some things under Captain Jacks that do not have insecticides. Such as the neem oil. If you ever have questions don't hesitate to reach out. π©·
Its main component is spinosad. Is made from chemicals produced by soil bacterium.
Be cautious if you use it. It does cause cytotoxic affects to human lungs. Meaning if you breath it in it is know to cause death of the cells within the lungs of you your family and pets. So if you use it please take precautions. Wear a face mask so you don't inhale it. And keep family and pets away. Never use on plants you intend to eat.
These are some of the effects it can cause on the lungs. They are interstitial pneumonitis, pulmonary fibrosis, or even more severe conditions like pulmonary edema and pneumothorax.
Bonide owns Captain Jacks. So everything listed under Captain Jacks will also say Bonide. They do have some things under Captain Jacks that do not have insecticides. Such as the neem oil. If you ever have questions don't hesitate to reach out. π©·
@BabeVila Haha, it does have a distinct smell that's for sure you do get used to it though. Some people put a few drops of essential oils in to mask the smell. Safe ones are Jojoba, Peppermint, coconut, lavander, lemon or orange even eucalyptus (DO NOT use eucalyptus oils if you have a dog), the vapors can be deadly to dogs.
I also get migraines so I get it! Maybe put the plants in the garage through treatment or a spare room you can close off?
I am super sensitive to smells as well and when I treat mine I wear a mask and open all the doors, turn on all fans etc to allow the house to air out. I have too many to isolate and over 500 plants so if one has a bug I treat the entire room so I can just stop them all immediately. Otherwise, another plant will unknowingly have them and I have to do it again. So when has a bug I treat aggressively with neem oil.
Spider mites and Alocasias are besties! They are drawn to the scent of the sap, spider mite magnets! I have 3 of them.
Dish soap does work in a pinch but like you said not a great option it breaks down the waxy coating that protects the plants.
It is cheaper to buy the pure neem oil in the long run and mix it yourself. If you email me your address I'll get some shipped to your home for you if you want. I don't mind at all. My email is shannonlovesdogs3@gmail.com
I also get migraines so I get it! Maybe put the plants in the garage through treatment or a spare room you can close off?
I am super sensitive to smells as well and when I treat mine I wear a mask and open all the doors, turn on all fans etc to allow the house to air out. I have too many to isolate and over 500 plants so if one has a bug I treat the entire room so I can just stop them all immediately. Otherwise, another plant will unknowingly have them and I have to do it again. So when has a bug I treat aggressively with neem oil.
Spider mites and Alocasias are besties! They are drawn to the scent of the sap, spider mite magnets! I have 3 of them.
Dish soap does work in a pinch but like you said not a great option it breaks down the waxy coating that protects the plants.
It is cheaper to buy the pure neem oil in the long run and mix it yourself. If you email me your address I'll get some shipped to your home for you if you want. I don't mind at all. My email is shannonlovesdogs3@gmail.com
@SuperbRaspfern do you know of any resources that will help me find alternative ways to address pests that will also not kill off beneficial insects? Trying to deal with pest or plant disease feels very overwhelming because it can spread so quickly and Iβm also worried of getting a product that will long-term do damage on our plants or overall environment
@HumbleSaltcedar
Neem oil and insecticidal soap are the two things I keep in my home for insect control. Because the won't harm the environment or my family.
A good resource is:
OMRI Institute
I'll include a link below
It stands for Organic Materials Review Institite
https://www.omri.org/
It can be a quite technical but they do have some good information.
Many good organic products are listed as OMRI certified on the label.
Sort of like how vegan products say certified vegan, or the bunny used by PETA for cruelty free.
Neem oil and insecticidal soap are the two things I keep in my home for insect control. Because the won't harm the environment or my family.
A good resource is:
OMRI Institute
I'll include a link below
It stands for Organic Materials Review Institite
https://www.omri.org/
It can be a quite technical but they do have some good information.
Many good organic products are listed as OMRI certified on the label.
Sort of like how vegan products say certified vegan, or the bunny used by PETA for cruelty free.
@SuperbRaspfern thank you!!! So the product I showed you says insecticidal super soap, thatβs another reason I thought it was safe. Should I be looking for something that says insecticidal soap that is OMRI certified instead?
OMRI certified is the best option for products that are safe for food consumption.
If you want soap as an insecticide buy any Castile soap I use Bronners Castile Soap and always have a gallon sitting around it's harmless and works. @HumbleSaltcedar
If you want soap as an insecticide buy any Castile soap I use Bronners Castile Soap and always have a gallon sitting around it's harmless and works. @HumbleSaltcedar
@SuperbRaspfern OMRI will still include some less toxic pesticides. @HumbleSaltcedar Add a fan and NEVER mist that will help you avoid fungal and bacterial infections and keep your plants healthy
@SuperbRaspfern omg you are an angel. Thank you so much. I live in a tiny apartment with 2 doggies so itβs really hard to quarantine, like you said i just treat everyone when there is a problem. π₯Ή
@CordialWildyam one of the joys of plant parenthood! Fun, fun! π©· ππ€£π
@BabeVila I just simply have too many to quarantine. I had one dog that kept trailing in mealbugs it took me FOREVER searching outside for the one plant that had them. He would brush against it and they would hitchhike right on in. After I figured out the source it was easy to handle. He was kind enough to carry them all through the house and spread them around!
I sent you a text π©·
I sent you a text π©·
@CordialWildyam Just wanted to check in and see how those fun treatments went. I bet you have so much free time now. Keep in mind you can do a neem treatment every 2 weeks as a preventative to all your plants. Just a quick misting you don't need to be overly thorough like you have to with active infestations.
I have been doing that to every single plant once every two weeks and I haven't had any issue with pests at all.
Just a tip if your interested β€οΈ
I have been doing that to every single plant once every two weeks and I haven't had any issue with pests at all.
Just a tip if your interested β€οΈ
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